D Day for Brexit

[sinkov]

What makes you think asking the people will solve everything.

59/60 doesn't think OC, that's his problem.

[1959_60]

You put too much trust in your own theories. What makes you think asking the people will solve everything. I doubt it would solve anything and as I have said to you several times you need at least 50% of the people to agree so only two questions. It seems you want to offer Brexit a Brexit b and Brexit c versus remaining. Sorry that’s not on.

Of course the EU want a deal, but they want all the favours, leaving us with little of what we want and paying over the odds for it. That’s not my idea of an acceptable deal and all this scaremongering just hardens my resolve to leave asap.

Simple OC.

Three choices on the ballot paper. You have to put your first and second preferences. The first options are all counted. If no option reaches 50% then the least popular option is discarded.
Then it is a straight run off between the remaining (no pun intended) options, with the second preferences added for voters whose first option was discarded.

This method is widely used, is straightforwards and fair.

I agree that a peoples vote won't stop all the argy bargy, but it will certainly be more acceptable than leaving it to the Tories.

[Norder]

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Three choices on the ballot paper....

there's no need for that 59'60....as posted before : Was Britain Taken Into The EU Illegally?
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/euillegally.html

so you see - can't leave what we haven't (Legally) joined.

[sinkov]

but it will certainly be more acceptable than leaving it to the Tories.

You really are unfair on the Tories 59/60, has the penny not dropped yet that the Tories are on your side ? The first clues came before the referendum, they campaigned alongside the LibDems for Remain, have you forgotten that ? They spent £9m of public money sending a leaflet to every UK household pleading with us to vote Remain, did you not get one ? The Tory Chancellor orchestrated the ludicrous Project Fear, spelling out the disasters that would befall us should we vote to leave. We voted to leave, nothing happened, have you forgotten that ? Now we have their Chequers plan which keeps us tied to the EU's apron strings, BRINO, we pay them money, they tell us what to do, we accept all their rules and regs, your business carries on as normal. It ain't Brexit but surely it keeps you happy ?

There is one other huge giveaway as well, there is a minority of Tory MPs who are known as Brexiteers, they campaigned, against official Tory policy, to leave the EU, they want to leave the EU, you know some of them, Boris, the Mogg etc, they are also called 'rebels'.

Now why do you think that is ? You do know what a 'rebel' is don't you.

[1959_60]

Supersub, put the final deal to the people.

If they don't like it then they can choose to crash out without a deal or stay.

It's the only way to save us from virtual civil war.

And surely NO ONE is saying that we shouldn't meet our obligations?

[1959_60]

Sinkov, you are a betting man and I am a bloke who never wins a bet.

So here is a perfect opportunity for you.

I'll give you odds of 10-1 that we remain.

Will you give me evens that we leave without a deal?

NOTE: This offer is subject to a maximum stake of a quid.

Will you put your money where your mouth is?

[sinkov]

Sinkov, you are a betting man and I am a bloke who never wins a bet.

So here is a perfect opportunity for you.

I'll give you odds of 10-1 that we remain.

Will you give me evens that we leave without a deal?

NOTE: This offer is subject to a maximum stake of a quid.

Will you put your money where your mouth is?

59/60, you're sounding very excitable, when you've calmed down, will you explain precisely what it is I've said that you want to bet on ?

In the meantime please read, or re-read, my post 174, and take special note that nowhere do I say the traitor's devious scheme won't succeed. It may well.

[1959_60]

You understand the betting market more than me Sinkov. If you were a bookie then what odds would you give on the various outcomes for Brexit?

i would go...

Theresa's deal 2-1
No Deal Evens
Remain 5-1
Another unspecified deal 2-1

[oldcolner]

Some bets for you

[sinkov]

You understand the betting market more than me Sinkov. If you were a bookie then what odds would you give on the various outcomes for Brexit?

i would go...

Theresa's deal 2-1
No Deal Evens
Remain 5-1
Another unspecified deal 2-1

I do understand betting markets to a certain extent 59/60, but I don't understand what's going on with Brexit. Theresa's deal is dead in the water, it's a non runner, but if any mug punters wanted to bet on it, then they could name their own price with BetSinkov.com.

Of the other runners I'd go

Out with no deal...6/4, neither side wants it to win, but one is so incompetent, the other so intransigent, it could happen.

Remain...2/1, I think this one is being trained up for a late run. Not discounted.

Some sort of deal...5/2, been in the lead for a long way, but starting to tire as they approach the final furlong. The jockey may have to use his whip to get this one over the line.

You know I said last year that there was no way for us to legally stay in the EU, there was no way to reverse the A50 procedure which takes us out. That's still the case, but I believe that, even as we speak, the EU are working on this very problem. Watch this space.