OT Cummings Press Statement

[Ram59]

We haven't seen the SD ignoring in anything like the numbers reported in the UK. Some litter, yes, but not of UK proportions thus far.

I'm not saying it won't but it hasn't so far.

Looking at how things were when I moved here 36 years ago, we would have seen the opposite of what we see today which is a surprise because the Dutch are a more individualistic lot than their UK couterparts. Weird stuff happening.

Unfortunately MA, I think that your average Brit is a bit of a neanderthal. Going to other countries around the world you don't see such behaviour that seems to be the norm over here.

Just because Cummings went on his trip, which whilst unwise, didn't appear to put his family or others in danger of infection of covid, seems to be an excuse for others to crowd together putting their own lives at risk, nevermind others. Whilst crowding together, they seem to think that it's fine to leave all their litter on the floor where they've been.

They go on holiday abroad and embarrass us with their drunken yobbish behaviour. I've lost track of the number of local people who have ignored the lockdown. 3 times I've had to go out in the evening for urgent medical prescriptions over the last few weeks, each time I've seen a number of large groups of youths out together with no distancing, not having any thought for those at home.

I sometimes think that our high figures are partially down to the attitudes of a significant minority.

I also sometimes despair at the population of the country that we live in.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Unfortunately MA, I think that your average Brit is a bit of a neanderthal. Going to other countries around the world you don't see such behaviour that seems to be the norm over here.

Just because Cummings went on his trip, which whilst unwise, didn't appear to put his family or others in danger of infection of covid, seems to be an excuse for others to crowd together putting their own lives at risk, nevermind others. Whilst crowding together, they seem to think that it's fine to leave all their litter on the floor where they've been.

They go on holiday abroad and embarrass us with their drunken yobbish behaviour. I've lost track of the number of local people who have ignored the lockdown. 3 times I've had to go out in the evening for urgent medical prescriptions over the last few weeks, each time I've seen a number of large groups of youths out together with no distancing, not having any thought for those at home.

I sometimes think that our high figures are partially down to the attitudes of a significant minority.

I also sometimes despair at the population of the country that we live in.

I haven't seen it to that extent Ram, but that is probably because I live in a town rather than a large conurban area.

It seems to me that the denser the population is, the denser the population is

[MadAmster]

Unfortunately MA, I think that your average Brit is a bit of a neanderthal. Going to other countries around the world you don't see such behaviour that seems to be the norm over here.

Just because Cummings went on his trip, which whilst unwise, didn't appear to put his family or others in danger of infection of covid, seems to be an excuse for others to crowd together putting their own lives at risk, nevermind others. Whilst crowding together, they seem to think that it's fine to leave all their litter on the floor where they've been.

They go on holiday abroad and embarrass us with their drunken yobbish behaviour. I've lost track of the number of local people who have ignored the lockdown. 3 times I've had to go out in the evening for urgent medical prescriptions over the last few weeks, each time I've seen a number of large groups of youths out together with no distancing, not having any thought for those at home.

I sometimes think that our high figures are partially down to the attitudes of a significant minority.

I also sometimes despair at the population of the country that we live in.

After reading the police response to Cummings' indiscretion. I accepted it as that. What I still can't get my head round is that someone as, apparently, intelligent as he, would choose to do an eye test in a 60 mile round trip on the open road with his wife and 4 year old son in the car. Dangerous to him, his family and to every other road user.

If that isn't illegal, then I suggest it should become so ASAP. Shame we don't do retrospective Law changes.

[swaledale]

After reading the police response to Cummings' indiscretion. I accepted it as that. What I still can't get my head round is that someone as, apparently, intelligent as he, would choose to do an eye test in a 60 mile round trip on the open road with his wife and 4 year old son in the car. Dangerous to him, his family and to every other road user.

If that isn't illegal, then I suggest it should become so ASAP. Shame we don't do retrospective Law changes.

Its not so much the stretching of the rules - legally an indiscretion yes, but the fact he has a responsibility to behave as he has advised the government to tell us what to do - the fact he hasn't resigned shows he doesn't give a ****, yet this is the guy supposedly "on the side" of the "average person" yeah right, another jumped up **** who thinks rules don't apply to him.

As for the eye test story - its plainly lies! Because of course any intelligent person packs their wife and 4 year old child into a car and drives 60 miles if they are concerned about their eyesight! I mean its easy enough to test whether you can see clearly without driving! So he hasn't committed an offence because there was obviously nothing wrong with his eyesight to start with!

It is illegal to knowingly drive with impaired vision or any other impairment - ask the Duke of Edinburgh!! Another case of double standards as an ordinary member of the public would ahve had their licence withdrawn and possibly prosecuted! But of course there is no proff that Cummings actually did drive with impaired eyesight.

Not sure why your harping on about something that was a clear lie anyway - the blokes an untrustworthy ****, much like the bloke he supports as Prime Minister and to think supposedly sane people voted this shower in!!

[ramAnag]

Unfortunately MA, I think that your average Brit is a bit of a neanderthal. Going to other countries around the world you don't see such behaviour that seems to be the norm over here.

Not sure about the ‘average Brit’, Ram...but I agree we do seem to have more than our fair share of ‘a-holes’.

It’s a little odd because the French, for example, are quite likely to bring the whole country to a halt over something as relatively trivial as the price of petrol, and yet where lockdown is concerned they seem to have been as good as gold.
The press will of course always show the very worst (most spectacular) incidents, but I’ve seen enough first hand examples of bad and irresponsible behaviour locally to agree that we have a problem.

[Ram59]

After reading the police response to Cummings' indiscretion. I accepted it as that. What I still can't get my head round is that someone as, apparently, intelligent as he, would choose to do an eye test in a 60 mile round trip on the open road with his wife and 4 year old son in the car. Dangerous to him, his family and to every other road user.

If that isn't illegal, then I suggest it should become so ASAP. Shame we don't do retrospective Law changes.

I suspect that the truth behind his statement about the test drive is that he decided to go for a jolly before going back to London. He then had to scrabble around for excuses for this jolly and without thinking it through properly, came up with this idea that because he had been very weak and had suffered blurred vision, that this would be sufficient reason for a 'test drive'.

As you say, for such a supposedly intelligent person who should be media savvy, he seems to have shot himself in foot. He should have read his statement in front of a group of people first, to check for reaction. I suspect though, that he wouldn't take any notice of any advice anyway.

As I've previously said, the similarities between him and Alistair Campbell are stinking, I did write 'striking' but my phone auto corrected to stinking and I couldn't disagree. Lol

[mistaram]

Its not so much the stretching of the rules - legally an indiscretion yes, but the fact he has a responsibility to behave as he has advised the government to tell us what to do - the fact he hasn't resigned shows he doesn't give a ****, yet this is the guy supposedly "on the side" of the "average person" yeah right, another jumped up **** who thinks rules don't apply to him.

As for the eye test story - its plainly lies! Because of course any intelligent person packs their wife and 4 year old child into a car and drives 60 miles if they are concerned about their eyesight! I mean its easy enough to test whether you can see clearly without driving! So he hasn't committed an offence because there was obviously nothing wrong with his eyesight to start with!

It is illegal to knowingly drive with impaired vision or any other impairment - ask the Duke of Edinburgh!! Another case of double standards as an ordinary member of the public would ahve had their licence withdrawn and possibly prosecuted! But of course there is no proff that Cummings actually did drive with impaired eyesight.

Not sure why your harping on about something that was a clear lie anyway - the blokes an untrustworthy ****, much like the bloke he supports as Prime Minister and to think supposedly sane people voted this shower in!!

According to today's paper Cummings has told Johnson to sack three ministers After number 10 ordered ministers to tweet their support of Cummings after he flouted lockdown rules The three being Liz Truss, Robert Buckland , and Priti Patel they are to go in the July reshuffle Cummings also wants Rees-Mogg out after his handling of the Commons vote Love it when you get what you voted for

[ramAnag]

Imo, the worry is why Johnson has protected Cummings and not sacked him.
Again, imo, it is nothing to do with the Covid crisis, but is wholly to do with Brexit.
Cummings is, and always has been, the ‘brains’ behind Brexit. Without his input Johnson will flounder.
Obviously I think Brexit is a terrible idea, but that argument was lost in December...long before the pandemic.
Given the subsequent state of the UK economy and the impact of Covid upon virtually all others throughout the World I think it is absolute folly to proceed with Brexit by the December 2020 deadline.
Johnson however is too vain and narcissistic to allow a postponement and Cummings is the one to make things happen even if that means a ‘no deal’ Brexit which we were promised wouldn’t happen.

[MadAmster]

Imo, the worry is why Johnson has protected Cummings and not sacked him.

Didn't Boris work with Cummings' missus at, was it, the Spectator? I wonder how much dirt she has on him?

[mistaram]

Imo, the worry is why Johnson has protected Cummings and not sacked him.
Again, imo, it is nothing to do with the Covid crisis, but is wholly to do with Brexit.
Cummings is, and always has been, the ‘brains’ behind Brexit. Without his input Johnson will flounder.
Obviously I think Brexit is a terrible idea, but that argument was lost in December...long before the pandemic.
Given the subsequent state of the UK economy and the impact of Covid upon virtually all others throughout the World I think it is absolute folly to proceed with Brexit by the December 2020 deadline.
Johnson however is too vain and narcissistic to allow a postponement and Cummings is the one to make things happen even if that means a ‘no deal’ Brexit which we were promised wouldn’t happen.

RA it's looking more like no deal by the day Even Andrew Bailey the governor of the bank of England told all the banks to prepare for a no deal last week As if we don't have enough problems in the country I think this could really sink us if it happens