O/T Well it looks like White Lives don't matter.

[CAMiller]

I sometimes wonder if I'm living on a different planet to some people and I probably am and it explains the 'rift' in thoughts.

You'll all have heard of the Autonomous Zone/Organised Protest zone in Seattle. Basically the city's East Precinct that was 'abandoned' by police/fire/medical services just after the start of the BLM protests when after many nights of protest/stand offs/police action and the subsequent banning of police use of tear gas/pepper spray/rubber bullets they retreated to 'deescalate' the situation. Over the ensuing 3 weeks the zone has become a cross between a daytime 'love in' and a nighttime 'no go zone'. In the early hours of Saturday morning a 19 year old black lad was shot and killed inside the zone. Police were met with hostility when responding to the 911 call so refused to enter as did medical services without police backup.

Yesterday the mother and grandmother of the victim were interviewed on TV. So who was to blame for his death. The lad for being in a dangerous area at 1am in the morning. No. BLM. No. The gunman. Not mentioned. The Police. Yes.

Will we ever be able to close this gap in the perception of law and order?

[KerrAvon]

You are behind the trend, Cam. I'm sure that some posters on here will be able to put you right - m'kay. It is clear that you still believe in 'personal responsibilty'. It's far easier to blame the police, or politicians, or big business or a host of other things than it is to accept any individual fault or error.

Kennedy warned about the trend in his 'what can you do for your country' speech. Thatcher did it in a slightly more abrasive fashion in her 'there's no such thing as society' speech.

[howdydoo]

I sometimes wonder if I'm living on a different planet to some people and I probably am and it explains the 'rift' in thoughts.

You'll all have heard of the Autonomous Zone/Organised Protest zone in Seattle. Basically the city's East Precinct that was 'abandoned' by police/fire/medical services just after the start of the BLM protests when after many nights of protest/stand offs/police action and the subsequent banning of police use of tear gas/pepper spray/rubber bullets they retreated to 'deescalate' the situation. Over the ensuing 3 weeks the zone has become a cross between a daytime 'love in' and a nighttime 'no go zone'. In the early hours of Saturday morning a 19 year old black lad was shot and killed inside the zone. Police were met with hostility when responding to the 911 call so refused to enter as did medical services without police backup.

Yesterday the mother and grandmother of the victim were interviewed on TV. So who was to blame for his death. The lad for being in a dangerous area at 1am in the morning. No. BLM. No. The gunman. Not mentioned. The Police. Yes.

Will we ever be able to close this gap in the perception of law and order?

If you think it’s anyone else to blame but the police you are a racist.

Well, probably in the minds of 60% of the millersmad (and friends) massive, you are.

[WanChaiMiller]

Even the police said it wasn't racist.

We're moving towards a socialist-authoritarian world government based on the Chinese model.

As for the OP, an Indian lecturer at Cambridge University has twice tweeted that "white lives don't matter" and been defended by the university so it appears he's correct.

She.

The Uni was not judging her on content but simply her right to an opinion.

Shes a historian and author of the book Insurgent Empire. Im sure she knew what she was writing but dont know where she was heading with it. Whatever she meant is largely irrelevant as the tidal wave of abuse she received has drowned out any debate.

[great_fire]

She.

The Uni was not judging her on content but simply her right to an opinion.

Shes a historian and author of the book Insurgent Empire. Im sure she knew what she was writing but dont know where she was heading with it. Whatever she meant is largely irrelevant as the tidal wave of abuse she received has drowned out any debate.

They cancelled a Jordan Petersen talk there a year or two ago.

Replace "white" with "black" in her statement and she'd have been sacked.

There's no free speech there and it's disappearing rapidly in this country and other Western nations.

[howdydoo]

She.

The Uni was not judging her on content but simply her right to an opinion.

Shes a historian and author of the book Insurgent Empire. Im sure she knew what she was writing but dont know where she was heading with it. Whatever she meant is largely irrelevant as the tidal wave of abuse she received has drowned out any debate.

Isn't it the case with most 'opinion' these days?

Quote:

ESTHER KRAKUE: I dared to question the aims of Black Lives Matter - and got the worst racist abuse I've ever suffered

[WanChaiMiller]

They cancelled a Jordan Petersen talk there a year or two ago.

Replace "white" with "black" in her statement and she'd have been sacked.

There's no free speech there and it's disappearing rapidly in this country and other Western nations.

The lad with the banner had the right to say what he did. The police said no crime was committed.

I think we have more space now to have our opinions aired than ever before.

[great_fire]

The lad with the banner had the right to say what he did. The police said no crime was committed.

I think we have more space now to have our opinions aired than ever before.

He was sacked from his job and so was his girlfriend from her job too.

[Stovicmiller]

She.

The Uni was not judging her on content but simply her right to an opinion.

Shes a historian and author of the book Insurgent Empire. Im sure she knew what she was writing but dont know where she was heading with it. Whatever she meant is largely irrelevant as the tidal wave of abuse she received has drowned out any debate.

. She's obviously an intelligent lady so would have known tweeting it twice would get loads of abuse directed at her and rightly so. I wonder what the uni would have done if a white academic had said black lives don't matter. She's a ****er.

[Slimchance]

Why do we not see more people like this on MSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sk4-p_0pcU