O/T:- Covid Trump

[LaxtonLad]

Trump's son said that they have always said that the only way that the Democrats would win was by cheating, and that they have been proved correct.

No evidence to support this, but say it enough times and people will believe it.

I fear that whatever happens, we won't have heard the last of Trump. If he should lose, when Biden is sworn in he will be constantly on Twitter with comment after comment. I'm quite surprised though that we haven't heard the phrase 'fake news' yet - I guess he's holding it back.

If Biden does win, I hope that it's as close to inauguration day as possible as I can't imagine what Trump will be like up to then.

Twitter has already started censoring some of Trump's attacks on Biden as being unsubstantiated or unfounded, if he carries on now expect more censoring. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden now started fighting back, given the access to privy government documents he will have.

[Woodypie]

Trump's son said that they have always said that the only way that the Democrats would win was by cheating, and that they have been proved correct.

No evidence to support this, but say it enough times and people will believe it.

I fear that whatever happens, we won't have heard the last of Trump. If he should lose, when Biden is sworn in he will be constantly on Twitter with comment after comment. I'm quite surprised though that we haven't heard the phrase 'fake news' yet - I guess he's holding it back.

If Biden does win, I hope that it's as close to inauguration day as possible as I can't imagine what Trump will be like up to then.

Then we all need to keep saying that Trump is a lying git that hopes his money can subvert people's honest votes.

[jackal2]

It seems to me generally that voting should be made as easy as possible. Elections should be held on Sundays, with postal ballots available, and even electronic voting where it has been verified as secure. Postal ballots seem an especially good idea during a pandemic.

I must say, I've got no problem holding elections on Sundays. I'm not religious and it would be convenient, so I could go for that idea.

Electronic voting I'm more dubious about, not the identity fraud side of things, but as with postal voting the person is still casting their vote in an environment that isn't controlled like a polling station is. There is still the possibility that undue influence or duress may be applied, like someone looking over the person's shoulder to ensure they vote a certain way. In a polling booth it's just you alone with a pencil, although actually I'd change that to a pen, because pencil markings can be erased!

Politicians who benefit from low turnouts are usually the people who want to suppress voting and make it as hard as possible.

Politicians who don't have or cannot mobilise enough voters are perhaps most likely to want a voting system that's more open to manipulation.

But in any case, voting in the UK is not "hard" at all. I agree that postal voting (or A N Other remote voting system) must be available to those who for good reason cannot physically access a polling station, because there is no other way to ensure they get a vote. But the rest of us are perfectly capable of walking, cycling or driving the usually very short distance from their door to attend their nearest station. In some cases it will be even nearer to you than the closest post box.

Voting shouldn't be viewed as a chore anyway. It should be something you want to go out and do, to make your voice heard. On average you probably only have to make the effort once every two years. If someone is physically able to attend their nearest polling station, but just can't be bothered, then the problem is with their personal priorities and sense of public responsibility, not with the polling system.

[upthemaggies]

Two things I've seen today that sum up the situation nicely, one for each side.


For Trump




Against Trump

"Pence tries to talk sense into Trump that it's time to leave the Whitehouse now."

https://twitter.com/BrutumF/status/1324384538580037632

[jackal2]

Not in the least bit suspicious!

[SwalePie]

Very interesting video clip of Trump and Mike Pence here...

[Elite_Pie]

Very interesting video clip of Trump and Mike Pence here...

Nice one, although I said a while back that Trump is so absurd he's almost impossible to parody.

Many people would watch that and think it's real!

[BigFatPie]

I must say, I've got no problem holding elections on Sundays. I'm not religious and it would be convenient, so I could go for that idea.

Electronic voting I'm more dubious about, not the identity fraud side of things, but as with postal voting the person is still casting their vote in an environment that isn't controlled like a polling station is. There is still the possibility that undue influence or duress may be applied, like someone looking over the person's shoulder to ensure they vote a certain way. In a polling booth it's just you alone with a pencil, although actually I'd change that to a pen, because pencil markings can be erased!



Politicians who don't have or cannot mobilise enough voters are perhaps most likely to want a voting system that's more open to manipulation.

But in any case, voting in the UK is not "hard" at all. I agree that postal voting (or A N Other remote voting system) must be available to those who for good reason cannot physically access a polling station, because there is no other way to ensure they get a vote. But the rest of us are perfectly capable of walking, cycling or driving the usually very short distance from their door to attend their nearest station. In some cases it will be even nearer to you than the closest post box.

Voting shouldn't be viewed as a chore anyway. It should be something you want to go out and do, to make your voice heard. On average you probably only have to make the effort once every two years. If someone is physically able to attend their nearest polling station, but just can't be bothered, then the problem is with their personal priorities and sense of public responsibility, not with the polling system.

Kin ell I thought ‘we should make voting as easy as possible’ was fairly uncontroversial, but obviously not. Ok, make everyone go to their local primary school, get the lazy f00kers out of their house. If one third of them generally can’t be arsed, what sort of democrats are they anyway?

In other news, Trump fans can’t make their minds up about what they’re protesting about.

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...735491586?s=21

[jackal2]

Ok, make everyone go to their local primary school, get the lazy f00kers out of their house. If one third of them generally can’t be arsed, what sort of democrats are they anyway?

I used slightly more polite terminology, but actually you've summed up my thoughts perfectly!

[Elite_Pie]

I think we all know that if Trump lost he was never going to say "congratulations Joe, good luck". His ego can't take losing, especially losing to such a limited opponent as Biden. He was always going to kick off and claim fraud, even though he can't offer any evidence at all. I think in the coming months we will witness the biggest temper tantrum the world has ever seen. It wouldn't surprise me if he has to be evicted kicking and screaming from the White House, because I just can't see him ever conceding defeat.