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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    Agreed. Times have changed. Its not just Dundee Utd who operate like this. If Jack Ross is a dinosaur of a manager who wants sole control, then he won't get the Utd gig. He also won't get a lot of other gigs out there. Some added flexibility may have to be shown by both parties with this appointment, but we don't employ a recruitment team for nothing.
    However, all this chat that Tony single handedly makes our signings is nonsense. It's the recruitment teams job to source the players the manager has identified as areas that need strengthened. Will Tony use his contacts to do the same? I'm sure he does. Between them all, they'll bring players to the table for the manager and Sporting Director to then sit down and discuss. Tony will then go out and try and sign said player. The way some folk go on, you'd think Tony Asghar spends his days scouting and signing players for the club with the manager having no input whatsoever.
    That recruitment team and Tony probably cost a fair % of our wage bill and they delivered Marc FN McNulty twice,twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Some folk are really struggling with the fact United use a recruitment model that doesn't have it's roots firmly set in the past.

    Any head coach in modern football, when your get to a certain level, will expect it to be like this.

    And it's been working for us.
    It's not the posters on here that's struggling, I would suggest it's the calibre of manager we're trying to attract that's struggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    That recruitment team and Tony probably cost a fair % of our wage bill and they delivered Marc FN McNulty twice,twice.
    I doubt the recruitment team had much input in signing him for a second time and I don't know many people who weren't happy with the initial signing. Whoevers decision it was to bring him in a second time however needs their head read. I don't think Tam is wholly innocent on that one if I'm being honest.

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    I wonder how much of our revenue McLean spent on his recruitment team?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    I wonder how much of our revenue McLean spent on his recruitment team?.
    The world has moved on a bit from the 70’s though hasn’t it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    I wonder how much of our revenue McLean spent on his recruitment team?.
    And there it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    And there it is.
    Aye exactly NONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    Aye exactly NONE.
    Agreed. #Los dos amigos

    I don't have a problem if our club decides to give recruitment decisions solely to TA but if the recruitment doesn't deliver then its the Head of Recruitment should go, not the coach who is reliant on his decisions.


    the best systems allow the coach to have input into which player he wants. It should be a collaboration. Maybe that's the sticking point maybe it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Agreed. #Los dos amigos

    I don't have a problem if our club decides to give recruitment decisions solely to TA but if the recruitment doesn't deliver then its the Head of Recruitment should go, not the coach who is reliant on his decisions.
    Problem is, for every number of players a club signs, you can guarantee a percentage aren't going to work out for whatever reason. Never will a club have a 100% strike rate in recruitment and certainly not when they're rummaging around the bargain basement like we are. Man City spent £100M on Grealish for example and he's spent half his season on the bench. It happens everywhere and more so at a club like ours. So to go sacking heads of recruitment when they sign a dud, well, we'd end up going through more of them than we do managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    I wonder how much of our revenue McLean spent on his recruitment team?.
    It’s a new world out there mate. Football has moved on massively since wee Jim’s time. TA gets a lot of stick on here and granted some of it maybe merited, but no one is perfect. He makes mistakes but don’t we all. That said we finished 4th are in Europe and on the verge of signing JR, which in my opinion is an upgrade. I’m sure signings will also follow once the appointment is made. Things are not that bad. The issue is some feed into some of the media reports which disgruntled clowns like Elvis spear head. We shld be focusing on the positives right now giving where we where financially and as a club 4 years ago. My cup is still half full until things change. 🖤🧡

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