JR gone. Next manager

[shedka]

Totally agree. Happy to give Fox a chance given the mentality of the players seems to be one where an arm round the shoulder from one of their mates is required as opposed to someone who is an actual manager with his own ideas & methods.

Agree

[geofoxposse]

I also think on a slightly longer period going back that managers should be entire managers and not footi coaches or coordinators or whatever they want to call them.

The Manager should be in charge of every piece of park business from the kids through training, signing and the match day.

Since we have had this liberal divesting of responsibility its been too easy to hide and lack cohesion.

[JUSTaway]

I also think on a slightly longer period going back that managers should be entire managers and not footi coaches or coordinators or whatever they want to call them.

The Manager should be in charge of every piece of park business from the kids through training, signing and the match day.

Since we have had this liberal divesting of responsibility its been too easy to hide and lack cohesion.

I can't see that working, managers are about as loyal as players these days, plus where is a manager meant to find the time to do all that? Since Bosman recruitment has totally changed, it's a full time job, it's not as though a manager can build a team and think about slowly/subtly rebuilding it in 3-4 years time, it literally changes from transfer window to transfer window. You could be changing the structure of the club everytime to fit the manager, potentially 3 times a year with the rate we go through managers, think back to ET time when we went from Alec Smith who pushed youngsters then he hired Jobbie McCall and he basically just wanted to sign experienced pros and turfed all the youngsters and didn't show any interest in the youth set up. I imagine even clubs that don't have a sporting director model, run their clubs closer to that model today than the traditional set up.

[Arabs4ever]

I can't see that working, managers are about as loyal as players these days, plus where is a manager meant to find the time to do all that? Since Bosman recruitment has totally changed, it's a full time job, it's not as though a manager can build a team and think about slowly/subtly rebuilding it in 3-4 years time, it literally changes from transfer window to transfer window. You could be changing the structure of the club everytime to fit the manager, potentially 3 times a year with the rate we go through managers, think back to ET time when we went from Alec Smith who pushed youngsters then he hired Jobbie McCall and he basically just wanted to sign experienced pros and turfed all the youngsters and didn't show any interest in the youth set up. I imagine even clubs that don't have a sporting director model, run their clubs closer to that model today than the traditional set up.

How do the Uganda players get a long trial period? The goalies on the other hand are just signed-on recommendations? That is just unbelievable. Get them in on trial and see them up close. I think our Sporting Director should have just stuck to directing traffic.

[JUSTaway]

How do the Uganda players get a long trial period? The goalies on the other hand are just signed-on recommendations? That is just unbelievable. Get them in on trial and see them up close. I think our Sporting Director should have just stuck to directing traffic.

Who knows, if the keepers are established at their clubs under contract, then I guess their clubs wouldn't exactly be happy with us taking them away for a month just to say no thanks.

[ARAbCHNID]

A recent ex-player who had Liam Fox at the Tarts said he was excellent & highly thought of.
And yes they could have promoted LF when TC left but the fans would not have been happy. We would have been expecting a bigger name.

[the_arab]

And yes they could have promoted LF when TC left but the fans would not have been happy. We would have been expecting a bigger name.

I think this has been the biggest problem. We all wanted a bigger name, TA went for it but it went against everything we had been building and said previously. The goal has been to promote from within the structure. In hindsight, Fox was probably the most natural to take over, and continue doing what we were doing with some new additions.

Id be happy with Fox up until the international break then make the call of whether to hire again or leave him in place.

[An old shed boy]

Usually when a manager is sacked there are comments from the players saying how it was their fault and not the managers. Hadn’t seen anything like that this time until last nights tully where McGrath came out with the usual platitudes. Hard to believe his comment that the players were sorry to see him go.
When the board pick the next manager will he have to ok’d by the players.

[tHeArAb]

Fox probably deserves a chance to stake a claim for the job, however his only managerial appointment to date was a complete disaster, so who knows how it'll go?

We appointed, probably the best available candidate at the time in Ross, and its backfired big time. Just goes to show how much of a lottery choosing a manager is.

[geofoxposse]

thanks, reminds me I have to go get some OPAP lottery tickets.