O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[Elite_Pie]

A cretinous and crass buffoon you mean? (What is 'kneeler and bike shed' btw?)

He means Starmer and Rayner. It's the sort of thing a cretinous and crass buffoon would post.

Will it be "in Kemi we trust", or "in Nigel we trust" next?

[M0ufMk3]

He means Starmer and Rayner. It's the sort of thing a cretinous and crass buffoon would post.

Will it be "in Kemi we trust", or "in Nigel we trust" next?

I await Suckerman's views on the release of drug barons and krypto crooks. Party of law and order my jap's

[SwalePie]

I'll give you a far right suspect and it's scary that he is the head of the most powerful military force in the world.

'Scary' is something of an understatement I'd say.

[Jampie]

1. He got inflation under control after the trump era of hyperspending and tax cuts
2. The massive inflation reduction act began steering the US economy into critical growth areas including sustainable renewable energy
3. Violent crime down (it shot up under Trump)
4. Health insurance rates went up - something like a third of the people who didn't have insurance got insurance under Biden. This is the next best thing to a functioning public health system (politically impossible in the US)
5. He actually supported Ukraine and handled Russia's invasion of it in a way that meant Russia has lost almost its entire post-cold war land forces
6. He did eventually get a ceasefire signed in Gaza
7. CHIPS act moves critical microprocessor manufacturing into the US meaning a war in Taiwan won't permanently crash the global economy

I mean, just off the top of my head.

Things he didn't do well:

1. Immigration is not under control, although he was stymied by republicans in congress voting down their own bill after he agreed to it, because Trump told them to keep immigration problems as a live issue for the election (this worked)
2. He presented himself terribly throughout, coming off as senile or borderline senile in too many public appearances
3. He should never have run for a 2nd term and had an open primary to replace him, giving candidates better than Harris a fair chance
4. US support of Ukraine was inadequate to push Russia out, and patchy. Although this was in no small part due to Republicans in congress vetoing the spending for months at a time
5. Gaza was a mess. You could theorize a different president would do better. I'm not confident of this.

I mean, I wouldn't put him above the more capable presidents like Bush Senior or Clinton but he wasn't terrible. Trump, IMO, was terrible and will be terrible again. Maybe not as bad as Bush Junior but bad. But I'm not too fussed. He isn't president of Australia so I expect to be largely unaffected by his idiocy.

[Mud Pie]

I expect to be largely unaffected by his idiocy.

happy for you Jam, wish I could say the same

[slack_pie]

Biden issuing preemptive pardons to his family and Fauci in the final hours of his presidency while Trump launched a cryptocurrency meme coin, syphoning billions of dollars of money from normal people to himself, pretty much sums up the state of politics in the US. It's rotten at the top!

[BigFatPie]

Biden issuing preemptive pardons to his family and Fauci in the final hours of his presidency while Trump launched a cryptocurrency meme coin, syphoning billions of dollars of money from normal people to himself, pretty much sums up the state of politics in the US. It's rotten at the top!

* I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family, * Trump said last year.


https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1...ivil-liberties

Anybody in their right mind would do what Biden has done given the repeated threats President Rapist has made against his political opponents.

What yesterday reminded me of is that people talk about the rape and the crime and the attempted election stealing but what they forget is that Trump and his hangers on are pretty much to a man and woman stark staring mental. Gulf of America ffs.

[slack_pie]

* I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family, * Trump said last year.


https://www.npr.org/2024/10/21/nx-s1...ivil-liberties

Anybody in their right mind would do what Biden has done given the repeated threats President Rapist has made against his political opponents.

What yesterday reminded me of is that people talk about the rape and the crime and the attempted election stealing but what they forget is that Trump and his hangers on are pretty much to a man and woman stark staring mental. Gulf of America ffs.

You're assuming that the Biden family have not been involved in any sort of corrupt dealings. What if they were?

[BigFatPie]

You're assuming that the Biden family have not been involved in any sort of corrupt dealings. What if they were?

Im not assuming anything other than what Trumps special prosecutor would find because he would tell them what to find.

Under those circumstances it wouldnt matter whether the Bidens had done anything or not because the findings would be that they had. Hence the pre-emptive pardons.

Trump and his fans first mainstreamed the notion of using the justice system against your political opponents pre 2016. (Lock her up for emails). Very much a case of accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of.

[slack_pie]

Im not assuming anything other than what Trumps special prosecutor would find because he would tell them what to find.

Under those circumstances it wouldnt matter whether the Bidens had done anything or not because the findings would be that they had. Hence the pre-emptive pardons.

Trump and his fans first mainstreamed the notion of using the justice system against your political opponents pre 2016. (Lock her up for emails). Very much a case of accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of.

We'll have to agree to disagree (once again), but it seems more likely to me that the Biden family have been involved in corrupt practices during Joe's tenure than Trump employing a corrupt special prosecutor to frame the Biden family and unlawfully imprison them. In effect, Biden's preemptive pardons protect against both outcomes, so who knows.