Sack him, save our season

[maddogslater]

Some fans, I'm still not quite there

[matt_magpie]

Magpie Circle - Stallard saying that fans aren't over-reacting after Saturday because the first half was *that* bad, fans having a go at the performance "absolutely justified". Also describing the January transfer window as "a horror show".

Mace on the coaches leaving, I think he said that we won't get any more out of the club on that issue other than "internal disciplinary investigation"

Stall always nails it for me, good point about the bench from him regarding Sat, only one player that had scored a goal on there, Gordon in the cup.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

Stall always nails it for me, good point about the bench from him regarding Sat, only one player that had scored a goal on there, Gordon in the cup.

Dont listen to the Magpie Circle often, but whenever he is on anything, Stall is always excellent.

Mace with some terribly textbook gate-keeping about supporting Notts.

[Mud Pie]

Dont listen to the Magpie Circle often, but whenever he is on anything, Stall is always excellent.

came on here to see whether anyone was going to mention this. Stall was very insightful and unusually pointed today, almost calling out our captain by name, offering loads of food for thought including the observation about the post match fan/team interactions.

About stats, I've proven beyond any doubt that I'm no expert on here, but surely stats aren't supposed to be single-use things like the more possession = the more points, or the most xG the more goals. Much more likely to be meaningful in clusters - like xG - xGA
+ pass accuracy + passes in oppos box or whatever, but taken as a whole picture rather than as a single infallible indicator aren't they?

*** Great discussion by LeftPeg, Jacob and lots of others on here, helping me put things Notts in clearer perspective. Don't read other fans message boards very often, but we're lucky to have the depth (and breadth) of posts we often get here. TY! What price old-school journalism?

[nw6pie]

came on here to see whether anyone was going to mention this. Stall was very insightful and unusually pointed today, almost calling out our captain by name, offering loads of food for thought including the observation about the post match fan/team interactions.

About stats, I've proven beyond any doubt that I'm no expert on here, but surely stats aren't supposed to be single-use things like the more possession = the more points, or the most xG the more goals. Much more likely to be meaningful in clusters - like xG - xGA
+ pass accuracy + passes in oppos box or whatever, but taken as a whole picture rather than as a single infallible indicator aren't they?

*** Great discussion by LeftPeg, Jacob and lots of others on here, helping me put things Notts in clearer perspective. Don't read other fans message boards very often, but we're lucky to have the depth (and breadth) of posts we often get here. TY! What price old-school journalism?

Possession for possession’s sake, with no end product, has been our biggest failing under the Reedtz. I’ll never forget the nightmare that was Notts v Halifax under Ardley where it literally felt like there was a force field keeping us from crossing the halfway line. We had similar problems at times under Burchnall and now they’ve returned with Maynard.

It would actually benefit us if we had a limited amount of time with the ball before having to forfeit possession, like the “shot clock” rule in basketball.

[Lullapie]

Possession for possession?s sake, with no end product, has been our biggest failing under the Reedtz. I?ll never forget the nightmare that was Notts v Halifax under Ardley where it literally felt like there was a force field keeping us from crossing the halfway line. We had similar problems at times under Burchnall and now they?ve returned with Maynard.

It would actually benefit us if we had a limited amount of time with the ball before having to forfeit possession, like the ?shot clock? rule in basketball.

Good post - possession without penetration is pointless - Sir Alex.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

Possession for possession?s sake, with no end product, has been our biggest failing under the Reedtz. I?ll never forget the nightmare that was Notts v Halifax under Ardley where it literally felt like there was a force field keeping us from crossing the halfway line. We had similar problems at times under Burchnall and now they?ve returned with Maynard.

It would actually benefit us if we had a limited amount of time with the ball before having to forfeit possession, like the ?shot clock? rule in basketball.

I totally agree, that having possession for the sake of it is pointless. It is absolutely about what you do with it. I would definitely like us to move the ball quicker and have the odd pot shot when we get into good spaces.

Im not sure many fans celebrate the possession stat over everything else, like Mace was saying last night. But just using that stat is pointless. If you see what that has led to across the season, there is an argument (quite an obvious one) to be made that you are better off having the ball than not.

To summarise what I posted Sunday night, statistically we are Top/Top 5 on attacking and possession metrics and Top/Top 3 on defensive metrics.

The biggest takeaway from them is we create the most chances and miss the most chances (a relatively obvious correlation) and I would say when you apply the eye-test vs statistical analysis, that is an observation most fans would make too.

Again, statistical analysis clearly does not take into consideration the things a lot of us have found frustrating recently, but it gives a solid indication of what is going on.

[Boomerangpie]

Grimsby, a town club and not a city club, have played in the 2nd tier more recently than we have, they've also spent more seasons in the top two tiers post war than we have and have contested 7 finals in the last 20 years.
Not one of the many many club's I'd swap our post 1995 trajectory with (there'd be at least 50 of those), but then not an obvious club to look down on either.

Why does it matter if they are a city club or town club like Luton and Bournemouth?
Yeah but have they played in the top division in your lifetime? Have they ever won the Anglo Italian cup at Wembley?

Are you going tomorrow night? Or have you been before? If you have then you know exactly what I am talking about and you are right not a club to swap our trajectory with. Whenever you last went it?s not changed, expect shrunk.

Light years behind due to neglect

[Woodypie]

They've said themselves that they feel they can sustain us in the Championship but not necessarily going up to the PL. One would think that meant the Championship is their current aim. I honestly don't know where you get such a negative vibe as your posts are giving off recently about the Bros.. They've made few, if any, false steps thus far in the balancing act of making us competitive whilst fixing the business from the bottom up.

I can totally understand that we're all at various levels of foaming at the mouth about the recent performances on the pitch, however. I'm not a massive Maynard fan but I'm not anti-Maynard either. I just think he's struggled hugely with the injury crises this season.

It's reassuring to see our visionary owners have a plan - promotion to as high in the League as Notts can get, at some unspecified point in time. How did they come up with that one!

[Notts78]

It's reassuring to see our visionary owners have a plan - promotion to as high in the League as Notts can get, at some unspecified point in time. How did they come up with that one!

Beats all the ?Championship in 5 years? promises? which has never been achieved.