Sturgeonland

[Red Zone]

This is the mentality I don't get amongst independence supporters.

I want independence and post independence I want a new, grown up, realigned politics within Scotland.
The best method of getting that, is by voting SNP, a single issue option.
If someone can direct me to a more effective route to independence, and out from under the "let the markets decide" default ethos of Westminster, then I'm happy to listen.

Until I can be convinced of a more effective road, I'll vote SNP.......even if they're led by the weird, dinosaur denying, Shankland fore-headed nugget.

Please don't take this the wrong way but you are missing the point.

It's not people like you that will deliver independence I'm afraid as you are already "a vote in the bag", but there are not enough in that category to deliver independence as has been proven over the last eight years. The only way to get well above the 50% mark in the near term is to convert NO's to YES's (eventually demographics will help but that could be more than a decade away). The point that DD is making is that of the three candidates only Kate Forbes has a chance of doing that as the "acceptable face of independence" to NO voters - Houmsa is just Nicola mark 2 without the charisma and Ash is just too bat**** crazy

[donsdaft]

I saw her various interviews on Sunday and it got me thinking. We are pretty quick to call out certain teams bigotry based beliefs so are we not in danger of being in similar mind by discounting her simply on the basis of where she chooses to place her faith?

I should point out that I know very little about the wee free church or whatever it is called so you being a bit further North may have a better insight in to their goings on.

They're a right bunch of heid bangers, nae worse than the muslims mind you.

[donsdaft]

Please don't take this the wrong way but you are missing the point.

It's not people like you that will deliver independence I'm afraid as you are already "a vote in the bag", but there are not enough in that category to deliver independence as has been proven over the last eight years. The only way to get well above the 50% mark in the near term is to convert NO's to YES's (eventually demographics will help but that could be more than a decade away). The point that DD is making is that of the three candidates only Kate Forbes has a chance of doing that as the "acceptable face of independence" to NO voters - Houmsa is just Nicola mark 2 without the charisma and Ash is just too bat**** crazy

Sneckie's not bad, Mason misses every point anybody ever makes.

[mondo_notion]

They're a right bunch of heid bangers, nae worse than the muslims mind you.

Jupiter? Is that you?

[donsdaft]

Well, devout christians, devout muslims, as bad as each other.

Do you think he's going to have his denner today or will he wait until the sun goes down.
He's going to have to wait longer next week.
I wonder if his god knew about the clocks going forward?

[donsdaft]

You know that they can pay for someone else to do their fasting for them.

Doesn't go down well with the really religious ones though.

[Mason89]

Sneckie's not bad, Mason misses every point anybody ever makes.

I see you’re firing out multiple posts to try and bury your shame on the thread itself. First smart thing you’ve done on here in a while.

We’ll say no more about it

[donsdaft]

Making things up again min.

What shame, why shame, when shame?


You obviously forgot to take your tablets this morning, you're worse than usual.

[Mason89]

Keep ‘em coming. The more you post, the further off into the distance it goes

[donsdaft]

You see, something that doesn't exist is apparently receding into the distance.

You better have a lie down.