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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    Some yet to be jabbed may therefore feel entitled to ask ‘What’s the point?’.
    like myself mate? what is the point indeed, nowts changed...

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    Dundee the Covid hot-spot of Scotland and you still find a way to blame the weegies. 😂😂😂😂😂
    There is nothing that isn't their fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    It's all over the place. My pals on his second self isolation in 3 weeks due to being pinged by track & trace. He's been vaccinated twice too. He's absolutely raging.
    There is far too much focus on case numbers now. The link between cases and deaths has been broken by the vaccines, the cases figure is just less relevant now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    There is far too much focus on case numbers now. The link between cases and deaths has been broken by the vaccines, the cases figure is just less relevant now.
    Exactly terry we know we can’t stop the spread or mutation but cases of death have been reduced we all know it’s no perfect and I haven’t heard of hospitals cases surging so all in all we are in a different position to where we were last year and it shouldn’t affect what’s planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troonarab View Post
    Exactly terry we know we can’t stop the spread or mutation but cases of death have been reduced we all know it’s no perfect and I haven’t heard of hospitals cases surging so all in all we are in a different position to where we were last year and it shouldn’t affect what’s planned.
    Hope no mate because i'm at the end of my FN tether with it now.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    There is far too much focus on case numbers now. The link between cases and deaths has been broken by the vaccines, the cases figure is just less relevant now.
    agreed mate, thats the thing, the old and vulnerable are vaccinated now so why the worry that we're going into tier 3?

    protect the NHS was the priority, so surely with the people most likely to be affected now vaccinated another lockdown cant happen?

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    That’s one of the issues just now isn’t it? People who did as they were asked, got the first and second vaccinations and heeded the guidance are seeing no benefit to it whatsoever. Yes I know there are the obvious health advantages but frankly I think the majority of people who got the jab thought that this was a ticket to a less restrictive life moving forward. Instead they are being subjected to exactly the same restrictions as anybody else non vaccinated. Some yet to be jabbed may therefore feel entitled to ask ‘What’s the point?’.
    Yeah, this needs addressing. Surely they must have a good idea by now if vaccinated folk can spread the virus?

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    I agree, it is awful having the isolation issues. Most cases are still in the not yet vaccinated. Most spread between them too. There is as low as possible chance of getting ill/infected having had the vaccine but it is not zero chance. Absolutely vaccination has broken the link in hospital admissions and severity of illness.

    The trouble comes for policy makers that there remains a small chance of severe illness. Although it seems unfair to have to isolate once vaccinated, it probably is just about the right call currently. Once the vaccination target is met though, I do think that will have to change. Perhaps replaced with increased lateral flow testing for the same period as isolation would have been?

    Honestly the best thing we can do is encourage anyone who is swithering to get the vaccine. Vaccination is not predominantly to protect yourself but to allow the population benefit needed for rules to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsof83 View Post

    Honestly the best thing we can do is encourage anyone who is swithering to get the vaccine. Vaccination is not predominantly to protect yourself but to allow the population benefit needed for rules to change.
    but whats the point if nothing changes as far as the rules are concerned?

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    Rules can only change/will only change when we have achieved enough vaccination.am frustrated with it as anyone, believe me, but we are weeks away. If you can do anything to help encourage people you know to be vaccinated, then I would encourage you to do so. 15 months of hell, but we are on the brink of success and it is only down to the efforts of everyone in society doing their bit.

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