Face Masks not stopping the spread of Coronavirus.

[islaydarkblue]

Why is there not more publicity about the failures like the ones given as examples. Is it that a no virus test result doesn't get the same effort to follow up, as a positive result?
I can see this current situation getting big publicity. Lockdown needs to be re defined IMO. It is a blunderbus approach and we should have a much more targeted system based on test and trace.

I had an idea, anyone got an email address for Hugh Pennington? He seems a media savvy type of person and I wonder if his ideas could be posted on here to help with our discussions. I don't use Twitter or Face Book so I wonder if there is a way to get some "expert views".

I have just replied to another post that I received the results of my negative test at Kings Cross Hospital exactly 25 hours after I got my test.
The person I know who is connected with Kingspark and has tested positive for COVID-19 contacted everyone person who they had been in contact with during the previous 4 days including contacting the management of a public house that they had been in. The Test and Trave teams ask for details of everyone a person testing positive for COVID-19 has recently been in contact with to arrange to test them.
I think that people should keep a note of who they gave been in contact with during the previous 4 days for more than 15 minutes at time just in case they test positive for COVID-19, This will make things easier for the Test and Trace teams to contact people who may be at risk of having COVID-19 no matter how mild a dose.

[islaydarkblue]

Last Thursday my wife and I were in the local butchers shop in Bowmore, Islay and the person who served me is also the Chairman of the volunteer board of directors of the Community run swimming pool in Bowmore.
I asked him when the swimming pool was reopening and he replied November.
Unfortunately I was not ‘on the ball’ as I was operating on ‘Islay time’ and it was only when I got home that I realised the board of directors of the swimming pool were using the furlough scheme to the full.
The Community run swimming pool has charitable status and as far as I am aware charities do not have to pay employers national insurance contributions. If this is still the case the staff working in the swimming pool will have their wages cut to 60% before the furlough scheme ends on the 31st October 2020 and no doubt the Community run swimming pool will reopen on 1st November 2020.
However the Chairman and his board of directors now have a problem as Nippy announced the following day (Friday) that swimming pools and gyms can reopen throughout Scotland on Monday 31st August 2020 which is a Bank Holiday in the whole of the UK including Scotland.

[BCram]

Yes.

Facemasks in schools now I see.

I still can't help staring when I see folk walking in the open air with masks on ....I'd love to ask them why.

Maybe just me but I also see a lot more people (not many) giving masks a swerve in shops.

Went in the bookies on Friday, usual 3 customers all masked up yet the one who should have a mask the robbing bookie was maskless.....only Scotland.

Like the bookie joke! I wear my face mask. I think it sets a good example.

[Returnofrros]

Like the bookie joke! I wear my face mask. I think it sets a good example.

An example of what though?.....it does no good.......an example of obedience?😉

I like to heckle dabs, it gives me peace of mind that I'm still alive but it dosent set any examples.

I wouldn't use a butcher or anything like that where someone is wearing a mask, they are bound to be touching it and pulling at it as it must be irritating then touching food. The idea is to keep your hands away from your face.

They are very unhygenic things.......masks, not butchers......although thon **** Terry was a dirty *******s without a mask.

[BCram]

Rross, if it does no good why was there such a panic to get them in the first place? I think the authorities didn't want the plabs buying up the supplies, an act that would have put even more frontline workers in peril. i think your objection is based on all sorts of examples of poor mask wearing etiquette rather than the principle of wearing masks.

[Returnofrros]

Rross, if it does no good why was there such a panic to get them in the first place? I think the authorities didn't want the plabs buying up the supplies, an act that would have put even more frontline workers in peril. i think your objection is based on all sorts of examples of poor mask wearing etiquette rather than the principle of wearing masks.

Because this whole carry on has been about panic.

A face cloth ain't gonna stop a micro scopic virus which seems to be as dangerous as athletes foot for the healthy.

[islaydarkblue]

Rross, if it does no good why was there such a panic to get them in the first place? I think the authorities didn't want the plabs buying up the supplies, an act that would have put even more frontline workers in peril. i think your objection is based on all sorts of examples of poor mask wearing etiquette rather than the principle of wearing masks.

I find wearing a mask very annoying as it keeps moving up my face towards my eyes.
Last Thursday when we were shopping in Bowmore I noticed only one young girl who was a pupil at Islay High School wearing a mask when she was walking down the street. Everyone else, as soon they came out of a shop took their mask off.

[islaydarkblue]

I think that it is crazy that people do not have to wear a mask in a public house when they are having a drink to sit in a restaurant having a meal but they are forced to wear a mask when in a shop.
There is far more likelihood of the COVID-19 virus spreading in a public house or restaurant full of people who are speaking to each than in a shop or supermarket.
The drinks industry must have a lot of clout.

[Returnofrros]

I think that it is crazy that people do not have to wear a mask in a public house when they are having a drink to sit in a restaurant having a meal but they are forced to wear a mask when in a shop.
There is far more likelihood of the COVID-19 virus spreading in a public house or restaurant full of people who are speaking to each than in a shop or supermarket.
The drinks industry must have a lot of clout.

Keeps the masses subdued....no pubs, more chance of serious rioting or thinking or unnoficial pubs popping up.

Again though if your having to pull a mask down for every boiled tattie or swig of lager your touching your face and the cloth which is full of germs far more.

Although I did think the cancellation of karaoke may have seen a march on Bute house from the likes of the Dolphin and ladywell tavern but apparently not......we are such a subservient race of people.😁

[islaydarkblue]

Keeps the masses subdued....no pubs, more chance of serious rioting or thinking or unnoficial pubs popping up.

Again though if your having to pull a mask down for every boiled tattie or swig of lager your touching your face and the cloth which is full of germs far more.

Although I did think the cancellation of karaoke may have seen a march on Bute house from the likes of the Dolphin and ladywell tavern but apparently not......we are such a subservient race of people.��

It is time for the masses to stand up and rebel.
Last week the owners of gyms complained bitterly about not being allowed to reopen and Nippy capitulated the following day giving permission for them to reopen.
Last Wednesday the leaders of Aberdeen City Council stated that they did not agree with Nicola Sturgeon and her sidekick Jason Leitch’s decision to keep the lockdown in place. By the following Sunday Nippy and Jason have again capitulated with the shops and businesses reopening the following day. Pubs and restaurants in Aberdeen have had to wait a further two days to reopen but it is better than nothing.