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  1. #1
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    Positives from today...

    Roberts getting fitness and played well.

    Rodders coming on and playing well

    Eli Sam having his most effective game in a Notts shirt when he came on.

    O’Brien coming on and (again) showing why he is so important to this team.

    Great spirit from the team to get some kind of result and performance in the second half.

    Fitness looks good

    No injuries

    We didn’t concede after going to 10 men, and looked pretty comfortable...did we go to 4 at the back?

    Plenty of areas identified to improve upon for next week.

    A good days work 👍

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    When you are chasing shadows and being totally outplayed by a premiership side it's hard to know what performance the team actually put in other than running around lots and conceding 4 goals.

    It probably told Nolan very little , same way winning by 4 or 5 against an inferior team 2/3 steps further down the footballing pyramid.

    During all my years as a fan I've noted a weak correlation between the two, some pre seasons poor, and have a decent season, others we are impressive in non competitive fixtures but then end up in a relegation battle. I'm also sure there are examples of the other two combination where we are either good in both or more likely bad.

    Because of the above I, like many, I don't put too much emphasis on the results/performances. I certainly wouldn't be getting too worked up or excited over a pre season. Each to their own obviously others clearly view PSFs very differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    When you are chasing shadows and being totally outplayed by a premiership side it's hard to know what performance the team actually put in other than running around lots and conceding 4 goals.

    It probably told Nolan very little , same way winning by 4 or 5 against an inferior team 2/3 steps further down the footballing pyramid.

    During all my years as a fan I've noted a weak correlation between the two, some pre seasons poor, and have a decent season, others we are impressive in non competitive fixtures but then end up in a relegation battle. I'm also sure there are examples of the other two combination where we are either good in both or more likely bad.

    Because of the above I, like many, I don't put too much emphasis on the results/performances. I certainly wouldn't be getting too worked up or excited over a pre season. Each to their own obviously others clearly view PSFs very differently.
    It's ridiculous playing pre-season games against teams two three leagues above or below you. You either learn nothing from getting hammered (Swansea?) or learn nothing from hammering another team (Carlton Town?) Ideally you ought to be playing clubs one league above or one below, playing teams in your own league gives them chance to assess your players and style so that's a no-no too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    When you are chasing shadows and being totally outplayed by a premiership side it's hard to know what performance the team actually put in other than running around lots and conceding 4 goals.

    It probably told Nolan very little , same way winning by 4 or 5 against an inferior team 2/3 steps further down the footballing pyramid.

    During all my years as a fan I've noted a weak correlation between the two, some pre seasons poor, and have a decent season, others we are impressive in non competitive fixtures but then end up in a relegation battle. I'm also sure there are examples of the other two combination where we are either good in both or more likely bad.

    Because of the above I, like many, I don't put too much emphasis on the results/performances. I certainly wouldn't be getting too worked up or excited over a pre season. Each to their own obviously others clearly view PSFs very differently.
    At this moment in time i would still put Nolan ahead of Ib , until he proves otherwise .. still cant believe people wanting nolan out, when anything after him has been garbage ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    At this moment in time i would still put Nolan ahead of Ib , until he proves otherwise .. still cant believe people wanting nolan out, when anything after him has been garbage ..
    Rumour has it that he was sacked because of his drinking problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldstripy View Post
    Rumour has it that he was sacked because of his drinking problem.
    YES! What we need are more rumours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher1 View Post
    Basford, Derby, Leicester and Luton. Lost 3 of the 4. Not sure why you couldn't look that up yourself?
    Yeah as you will see above I found the information 14 mins earlier than your post thanks to the wonderful Wikipedia.

    Originally I didn't know where to look for pre season friendly results.

    In hindsight not the best choice of opponents other than Luton.

    Cheers

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    Coming back from 2-0 down and only playing against 10 men. Good to see that Ardley sides lack the bite and ability to finish the job they are well known for at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    It's ridiculous playing pre-season games against teams two three leagues above or below you. You either learn nothing from getting hammered (Swansea?) or learn nothing from hammering another team (Carlton Town?) Ideally you ought to be playing clubs one league above or one below, playing teams in your own league gives them chance to assess your players and style so that's a no-no too.
    Exactly LL.

    Maybe the 2018 friendlies were a vanity project for the chairman after falling out with our neighbours over the river, so he picked the other two East Midlands big boys to give us a good spanking.

    Anyway friendlies smendlies I say. Roll on Barnet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countygump View Post
    You can’t, well I can’t, disagree with what Burchnall said.

    What does jump out at me is the comment re clubs having no fans in the ground for majority of the season, but then having money to spend this season. I wonder who that could be and how they managed to do it?

    Wrexham have wealthy owners and they decided to go down a certain route. I have no issues with this. But Chesterfield have abused a system and benefited from it. Other than Notts, the first result I will look for is Chesterfield. I really hope they don’t get promoted.

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