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Well if you take the 6 games without Harkes compared to the previous 6 with him, then yes, we've picked up less points and conceded more goals. We've also picked up less points in the 5 games without Butcher than the previous 5. I'm not sure what games you're watching if you think our midfield isn't missing them? Teams are ghosting past us. Look at the Fun at Tannadice. Hearts at Tannadice. Our midfield cut wide open in both games. I'm not saying they are good players, but we are missing them, because quite frankly Levitt is not a holding midfielder, Mcdonald is half the player he was and Meekison is simply not ready for this level of football.
Butcher is a big miss, solid player who has only got better with experience, would be hard to replace. Harkes energy is missed but being felt more because Butcher is out too. Midfield is weak with they 2 out and Fuchs gone. Liam Smith could have helped in there to replace Harkes energy which leads to a question...why hasn't Freeman played RB to allow that, weve even had niskanen RB instead of Freeman
Craig you are bang on with most of your questions and opinions but there are a few in here who will gang up on you because you dare to speak the truth.
If you dare to suggest we are mediocre (or worse) there are at least 3 posters who will argue we could be less mediocre if we had Harkes and Butcher in the team. Crazy logic.
It's f*cked up and to be absolutely honest this board has become f*cked up in its perverse defence of the current position based on how we are brilliantly more mediocre than the other teams. Who, by the way, will not f*ck up for much longer.
Chick was shot down because he pointed to our attacking issues. "I agree"
The head in the sand brigade have claimed this forum as their own. It's disappointing because I thought this board was open. It's not open any more. Questioning or dissenting voices will be drowned out. 4th place, get real . Get real. As GB says a second division Cypriot side would probably embarrass us.
And, by the way, I've watched all our games this season, every one, and we are absolutely sh1te. No clue. And I've been watching Dundee United FC since 1963.