Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[Billyni]

In 1944 young people stormed the beaches of Normandy to almost certain death.
Today young people need a safe place because some words might hurt their feelings.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Reasons to be cheerful - lots.

[spaldy]

Mtot,

A old saying that might bear your research if you have the time and inclination. "A rising tide lifts all boats". In more specific economic terms "no country ever taxed itself into prosperity". It's worth reading up on. You might be surprised what you find doing the research.

Regarding tariffs, Trumps tariff plan is not intended to tarrif the US into prosperity. It's an opening salvo on negotiations. Currently the US can't sell many goods in China, Europe, Asia etc. Great deal for those countries but not such a good deal for us. Why would those countries negotiate for different terms when they are 100% in favor of them? The end result will end up being fairer terms for the US and not the end of global trade like the economically illerate preach.

Trump is not going to eliminate immigration. Utter nonsense spouted by clowns that don't understand what's happening. We had 21,000,000 illegal aliens dumped in our country the last 3 years. The world dumped their criminals, uneducated, insane and drug gangs into our country with no screening. Even a large country like the US can't take that without collapsing civil order.

[Francewhite]

Well, at least the citizens of Russia, N. Korea, China etc. have an excuse as they don't have democratic elections. The US does and elects a man who isn't to be a janitor. Stupid, ignorant and misguided.

[spaldy]

Well, at least the citizens of Russia, N. Korea, China etc. have an excuse as they don't have democratic elections. The US does and elects a man who isn't to be a janitor. Stupid, ignorant and misguided.

My uncle died on normandy beach. Some festering hell hole that meant nothing to his stupid, ignorant and misguided ass. I know it will stun you but he didn't wake up one day and decide he wanted to go to france. It's because your sorry ass military couldn't defend their country.

**** you.

[WTF11]

My father-in-law was in the first wave on Gold, paramedic you would call him nowadays. Spent the next two years or so attached to various active units ending up with an armoured brigade that liberated Auschwitz. There was a reason America chose to prioritise the European campaign. Hitler was almost as advanced as America in developing a nuclear capability. Liberating Europe wasn't "simply" of benefit to the Europeans. Had Hitler continued to develop nuclear capability and the ballistic missile technology exemplified by the V2 (the successor of which would have been intercontinental and was in prototype development when the development sites were overrun by allied forces), your predecessors might well have been waking up to a smouldering hole where New York used to be.

Britain and it's empire stood alone for the first two years of WWII, had we not done so, you'd be speaking German, so f00k you back.

[Francewhite]

Should read "who isn't fit to be".

[Monaco_Totty]

In 1944 young people stormed the beaches of Normandy to almost certain death.
Today young people need a safe place because some words might hurt their feelings.

Yes Billy, myself & other younger members of French society attend the vast remembrance ceremonies every year here & help lay memorials on behalf of the British Legion, mate, as well as tend the many, many war graves too.
In fact we had this made overlooking our beach for this years service - Lest we Forget !

Not all youth fit your terminology or indeed your aired sentiment of them.

Just saying

[Francewhite]

Actually Spaldy I'm Scottish and my uncle was killed in Flanders during WW1 and my father was in the front lines in France and Germany in WW2. They were fighting for democracy and freedom and to save everybody's sorry "ass" not just France's. France is my place of residence now but I'm not a citizen.

[Billyni]

I think we have a game on tonight 😆😆