Election Year or Fear!

[SithHappens]

so, now we've identified Labours direct interference in US politics, no one will be mentioning Farage again as Trumps pal?

Is he really his pal?

I dunno, when I think of his last visit to 'support' Don, all I can picture is Alan Partridge and his 'Dan' scene.

https://youtu.be/zvpwF0NBY28?si=pAzIiQutk46g0vrm

[Trickytreesreds]

Is he really his pal?

I dunno, when I think of his last visit to 'support' Don, all I can picture is Alan Partridge and his 'Dan' scene.

https://youtu.be/zvpwF0NBY28?si=pAzIiQutk46g0vrm

as funny as that is, I disagree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPufG6fF6G0

But most of it occurred before he was an MP.
Now is it par, with a major party sending 100 activists to support one and undermine the other?
Dodgy territory.
If Trump wins, you can be sure he will showing his contempt here. Not that Bidens administration has done us any favours, except play up the Irish

[SithHappens]

I will agree with you, there should be no participation in any form in the US election by labour or any other party.

[Andy_Faber]

I will agree with you, there should be no participation in any form in the US election by labour or any other party.

Yup, agreed.

[Trickytreesreds]

I will agree with you, there should be no participation in any form in the US election by labour or any other party.

But unfortunately Sithy, there is.

Sofia Patel, head of operations at Labour , has tried deleting her post, but too many people have lost their rag over it. Especially in America. WTF do these people think they are?

https://x.com/Suffragent_/status/184...162787/photo/1

[Andy_Faber]

It’s called integrity, AF. He has none. Nothing to do with being ‘personable’. I can’t imagine anyone being allowed to remain in any position of authority with his track record let alone as leader of the ‘free world’.

You’re so tightly wound about the personality involved you’ve forgotten my original point. I’m suggesting you’re wrong to call 20 million Americans fools for voting, after due consideration,for someone who they believe will make their lives better. In the long run those 20m may find their decision to be wrong, but in good faith not foolishness. ‘Integrity’ as you describe it doesn’t put food on the table

[ramAnag]

You’re so tightly wound about the personality involved you’ve forgotten my original point. I’m suggesting you’re wrong to call 20 million Americans fools for voting, after due consideration,for someone who they believe will make their lives better. In the long run those 20m may find their decision to be wrong, but in good faith not foolishness. ‘Integrity’ as you describe it doesn’t put food on the table

Hmmm…never going to apologise for believing integrity to be a prerequisite of world leaders.

One final try…I provided just four of many examples of Trump’s unacceptable behaviour. The first proves him to be stupid. The second shows him to be a misogynistic ***ist. The third shows him to be a traitor and finally…the fourth proves him to be a criminal.

Earlier this week you described yourself as having a better grasp of the ‘real world’ than others. If you find it acceptable for the next leader of the ‘free world’ to be a stupid, misogynistic, treacherous criminal then I fear you’ve either lost the plot or are just arguing for the sake of it.

He isn’t fit to hold office, Andy.

[Andy_Faber]

Hmmm…never going to apologise for believing integrity to be a prerequisite of world leaders.

One final try…I provided just four of many examples of Trump’s unacceptable behaviour. The first proves him to be stupid. The second shows him to be a misogynistic ***ist. The third shows him to be a traitor and finally…the fourth proves him to be a criminal.

Earlier this week you described yourself as having a better grasp of the ‘real world’ than others. If you find it acceptable for the next leader of the ‘free world’ to be a stupid, misogynistic, treacherous criminal then I fear you’ve either lost the plot or are just arguing for the sake of it.

He isn’t fit to hold office, Andy.

Just take a rest rA. This discussion started this morning when you described a reasonable proportion of the US electorate as fools. There was no reference, argument or defence by me of Trump, merely of the likelihood that some of those for which you expressed disdain do actually make informed decisions. Regrettably you’ve lost that particular plot in your desperation to tag as many negative adjectives to the names those you dislike, on this occasion Trump. If you can’t stick to the subject at hand it’s not worth me discussing

[ramAnag]

Just take a rest rA. This discussion started this morning when you described a reasonable proportion of the US electorate as fools. There was no reference, argument or defence by me of Trump, merely of the likelihood that some of those for which you expressed disdain do actually make informed decisions. Regrettably youÂ’ve lost that particular plot in your desperation to tag as many negative adjectives to the names those you dislike, on this occasion Trump. If you canÂ’t stick to the subject at hand itÂ’s not worth me discussing

‘If you can’t stick to the subject in hand it’s not worth me discussing’.

So - the ‘subject in hand’ was opened last February with me questioning the suitability of both Trump and Biden as the next POTUS.

Fortunately, imo, Biden has since withdrawn. Unfortunately, also imo, Trump remains.

Since then the subject has broadened and yesterday morning I suggested that the alleged 25% of young black men who are turning to Trump are ‘fools’.

You quickly jumped on that claiming that I’d described a ‘reasonable proportion of the U.S. electorate’ as fools.

So…totally sticking ‘to the subject in hand’ so far…but beyond that, I haven’t been, as you suggest, desperate ‘to tag as many negative adjectives’ to the name of Trump as I can.
Easy as that would be, I have taken just four examples of his behaviour (there are many, many more) which would suggest him to be a stupid, misogynistic, treacherous criminal.

I’ve backed up all four of those claims with examples which leaves two simple questions for you, both very much concerned with the ‘subject at hand’.

1. Which of my four examples/descriptors are you challenging?

2. How can a candidate who exhibits such stupidity, misogyny, treachery and criminality appeal to anyone other than a fool?

[Trickytreesreds]

Just take a rest rA. This discussion started this morning when you described a reasonable proportion of the US electorate as fools. There was no reference, argument or defence by me of Trump, merely of the likelihood that some of those for which you expressed disdain do actually make informed decisions. Regrettably you’ve lost that particular plot in your desperation to tag as many negative adjectives to the names those you dislike, on this occasion Trump. If you can’t stick to the subject at hand it’s not worth me discussing

Any election is the same. Both camps can say the other side are fools. Its a point of view. Many said the same voting for an old man, who clearly had mental problems, as the leader of the free world. He got worse during office and could have started ww3 for all anyone knew.
As I said earlier, my sister had recently returned from the States, after visting her husbands ex commanding officer. What she picked up was the expense of things have gone through the roof, especially food. (that must hurt). And the migration flooding being of biblical terms under the Democrats. So depending who you talk to, both sides can say not fit for office, even Harris, as it was her job to sort immigration out, 10 million in 3 years? WOW.
nb, side note- the officers son told my sis, that everyone in the area they were in, now carries a side arm, under permit. A sad development of the Biden administration.

There are bigger issues than personality to consider in a countrys well being.