Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

Looking at the wording of the conditions I doubt he’s breaking the law but obviously we here don’t know the whole story or the whole of US state law. The ‘raffle’ is open to all, and there is no link to voting. Not That I can see anyway.

It isn’t ‘open to all’. It’s only for voters in the ‘swing states’ who sign Musk’s PAC petition.

[Andy_Faber]

It isn’t ‘open to all’. It’s only for voters in the ‘swing states’ who sign Musk’s PAC petition.

I did specifically say 'state', and no-one's prevented from signing the petition

[ramAnag]

I did specifically say 'state', and no-one's prevented from signing the petition

Post #1948 - today, 12.18pm.
‘The raffle is open to all,’ by Andy_Faber.

It clearly isn’t! At least have the good grace to accept when you are wrong.

[ramAnag]

... and now Musk is giving away $1M, in sort of raffle, every weekend to a Trump voter.

Surely, that must count as bribery and/or unfair influencing of the ballot?

It’s DAILY, I believe MA…everyday between now and the election, but only open to those, in the ‘swing states’ who sign up to America PAC which is essentially Musk’s political group set up in support of Trump’s election campaign.

Either way it stinks imo. What price democracy? About $1m or £767k per day apparently.

[Andy_Faber]

It appears to be every day by the way

[Geoff Parkstone]

Anyone could register, rA regardless of political expectation of voting, unless they have a clause that takes the dosh back if you don't vote the "right way" - but isn't it still a secret vote in USA despite the voting machines used in various states: hence who could find out?

[ramAnag]

Anyone could register, rA regardless of political expectation of voting, unless they have a clause that takes the dosh back if you don't vote the "right way" - but isn't it still a secret vote in USA despite the voting machines used in various states: hence who could find out?

With all due respect, GP - and I’m answering you rather than Andy as this seems completely beyond him - ‘anyone’ cannot register.
There are 50 U.S. states and ‘entry/registration’ is confined to residents of just six of those states…those being Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, Michigan, North Carolina and Arizona which, quite coincidentally of course, happen to be the key ‘swing’ or ‘battleground’ states.

Musk has even declared the aim as being ‘to try to get over a million, maybe two million voters in the battleground states to sign the petition in support of the First and Second Amendment.’

Beyond that, access to the ‘prize’ is only available to those who sign the Musk/Trump petition…so while I partially understand your point it is quite ludicrous to suggest that ‘anyone could register’ or that it is ‘open to all’ when it is self evidently restricted to residents of the ‘swing’ states and beyond that only to those who sign Musk’s PAC petition.

Tell you what, AF. You’ve, rightly imo, put a lot of faith in MA recently and suggested he might act as an arbitrator when your decision is called into question.
This isn’t quite one of those moments but, coincidentally he introduced the topic, so why not put the system to the test?
You have been adamant that Musk’s ‘prizes’ are open to all. I’m saying that they’re not because only residents of the key ‘swing’ states (6/50) are eligible and, beyond that, only those who sign the Musk/Trump PAC petition may enter.

How about letting MA decide? Open to all…or not?

[Andy_Faber]

I'll go against my own request, and repeat just once: For the sake of other posters, End of discussion (I hope)

[Geoff Parkstone]

EG I have a friend who joined the labour party in UK as a firm conservative voter, solely to vote against Corbyn

[Geoff Parkstone]

I agree that application for the "raffle" is at state level, so you can't get into the game unless youre in specific states. But that is so with most state lottires in USA int it? If you're in Missouri you can't enter the state lottery of Maine??

Beyond that anyone can surely sign up to the Tusk requirements and be eligible for the lottery without having to prove which way the voted which would violate one amendment or another??