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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    I also forgot to mention probably the most important thing

    I've generally found the elderly (say 75 and over) didn't get that way by being dumbasses or lacking independent thinking. While they have more to lose than any age group death rate wise they also realize that hiding out and giving up all your freedom and control to a government bureaucrat often does not work out well.

    we will be exposed to this virus. It's too contangius. The issue will have given up everything economically and medically by the time the government declares it's safe to resume our normal life.
    Isn't this virus politically made? What makes you think politicians will help out the normal populations since when have they cared?
    I haven't seen one politician declare they won't be taking a salary till this is contained while thousands upon thousands have lost jobs.
    As with our meat factory those people working in there handling the meat which you may consume how safe is that? They let the pigeon out for the cat once why do it a second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    I also forgot to mention probably the most important thing

    I've generally found the elderly (say 75 and over) didn't get that way by being dumbasses or lacking independent thinking. While they have more to lose than any age group death rate wise they also realize that hiding out and giving up all your freedom and control to a government bureaucrat often does not work out well.

    we will be exposed to this virus. It's too contangius. The issue will have given up everything economically and medically by the time the government declares it's safe to resume our normal life.
    Spot on both posts.

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    One last time and won't comment anymore on this subject called corona.
    People need to understand we created this monster called china.We have given up everything to create them from closing our manufacturing companies and so much more.
    Do people realise that 90% of our medication the components,ingredients come from china? The other 10% comes from india yes 2 countries control your health.Why you may ask well like anything else we closed our own factories given up peoples jobs created problems in our own countries through unemployment so on.
    Politicians have done this all over the world to the betterment of one country which doesn't have human rites are dispicable to it's own people and all they care is power to afew within.
    Do i blame China for this Virus you bet i do. Do i blame China the way they are? No cause we let our politicians make them for what they have become.
    And people been people at least the rich and smart one's are now talking about suing them and are thinking of dollar's instead of saying hold on they make everything but everything what if they stopped suppling us? Suing a power that controls you imao i wonder where this is going to go.
    Anyway stay safe look after your families and get your info from anywhere you want.

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    Keep on Fighting as the message above the ER dressing room door says Oz.

    Let's hope Bielsa has kept the grey matter of his genius focused for the restart whenever wherever .........
    It appears he's still taking his 45 minute walk to TA most days from his flat in Wetherby according to the Wetherby News ........
    Must be tough living alone with his wife & family in Argentina with no direct physical contact and no players to physically coach literally living in a very modest flat above a shop in Wetherby centre - the blokes a 'one off' for sure as you are Oz !


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    Socially distanced greetings. I have a theory on this and thought I'd share it with you. If you look back over the past 100 and a bit years, we have had Spanish Flu, SARS, MERS, Avian Flu, Swine fever and other zoonotic diseases, all of which are Corona Viruses from the same family as COVID-19. They all still exist but are no longer the great danger they once were. Also, they have never found a vaccine for any of them. They simply faded away into insignificance.

    What makes governments the world over and "philanthropists" like Bill Gates think CV-19 will be any different to its forebears?

    IMO CV-19 will simply go the way of its family members and fade into insignificance. I hope my opinion is right as having to wait a year for a vaccine will see very many pubs, clubs, concert halls, restaurants, shops, garages and football clubs go to the wall, never to open again. The British way of life we all know and love will have gone. Here's to fans of all clubs being able to march on together.

    Stay safe, one and all.

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    Makes you wonder, when you stuff like this;

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...5CN?li=AAnZ9Ug

    as to how there will EVER be anything remotely resembling "safety" when it comes to food/medicine materials, if people are prepared to do what the article suggests (and that the "market" will satisfy a demand for such "product", then again, it is Amazon after all!)

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    Oz. My father went through that before passing. One of the biggest changes I have ever seen was Prozac. Changed him almost overnight. Never would have thought of him as depressed.

    Not much for big pharma but this was a game changer

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    Oz. My father went through that before passing. One of the biggest changes I have ever seen was Prozac. Changed him almost overnight. Never would have thought of him as depressed.

    Not much for big pharma but this was a game changer
    Spaldy you may miss interpreted Dementia with depression. A few years ago when is started getting sick and couldn't work ( I was a workaholic) I went into depression and was prescribed Pristiq which is a very similar drug. Yes, it worked wonders as I wasn't angry and calmed me down and nothing bothered me. I noticed after a few years my weight going up and up and as I wasn't eating much food I questioned the dr what could be causing this. He replied Pristiq and unfortunately, he said it's one of the side effects. He said if you believe you're fine now you can stop taking them. I said too right I will but he forgot to mention I had to slowly withdraw it over 2 months
    Well, what happens next after a week not taking it by body started shutting down and was collapsing. The ambulance couldn't even find my blood pressure it was so low and in hospital, I slowly come good send home Drs said nothing wrong with me must have been the heat lol. Anyway, the illness was still there but now I knew when I felt it starting I would go lay down for an hour and I'll come good. After a month of not getting better I went to my pharmacist and said this and this is happening could one of the tablets I'm on be causing it. He said no as I have been on them for years with np. He said did you change any of the medication and me with my memory remembered that I stopped taking Pristiq. That's when I found out I had to go slow with it and finally my illness all made sense and now I'm ok with it.
    Sorry about the long essay but when you mentioned depression I thought I should share it just in case you guys come across such a thing and may help you understand the cause.
    Last edited by ozleeds; 04-05-2020 at 06:35 PM.

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    Oz- interesting take you gave on tablets ..........

    My daughter had two psychotic episodes in three years and in her experience and my view after seeking advice from several medical consultants the use of antidepressants in her illness OCD is common and they are used in Dementia & Alzheimer's too in UK.

    Correct diagnosis is critical as originally they said my daughter had mild Schizophrenia which later changed to severe OCD,but nobody explained just how medications effect folks.
    Prozac and Zoloft are common brand antidepressant drugs. Although they have similar effects on the body, their specific uses, side effects, and dosages are different.

    Prozac and Zoloft are both selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). This class of medication is among the first options for treating major depressive disorder, which people usually call depression.

    Fluoxetine is the generic drug name for Prozac, and sertraline is the generic name for Zoloft.

    (I recall reading those taking SSRIs actually saw their heart attack risk go down when compared with those who took no antidepressants of any kind the studies found. Prozac (fluoxetine) seemed particularly protective, in terms of reducing risk for heart attack and irregular heartbeat, the research records also state).

    My daughter always appeared dazed and tired when on Zoloft and doubled her weight in 18 months which was horrific.Then she suffered a third psychotic episode after a monthly prescribed lowered dosage - a total nightmare as she had to go back on them again at a higher dosage.

    Over the last 2 years she had nearly completed her lowered dosage programme to zero mg - then came Covid 19 lockdown restrictions and she's just about got through it without any mg increase and she is now back to her normal weight and looks terrific and on course to get off them all together.

    For her & family it's been tough but to see her medication nearly free after such a long journey back (8 years) and having finally having a correct mental diagnosis on her illness - words just cannot convey so I do understand how you feel and you covered it well.

    For anyone who has symptoms of depression please get them checked out and get a correct diagnosis for correct support and correct medication for the individuals diagnosis.


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