O/T:- Mr George Floyd RIP

[Riverleeno]

I'm not saying that tho am I?

I got the impression that those who put an alternate view were considered by you racist/unwittingly racist/about to write something racist.

[Riverleeno]

For what it's worth #BlackLivesMatterToo would probably have been a much more palatable phrase / hashtag for many people to feel less attacked and defensive about this campaign. But it wouldn't have got anything like the media attention and therefore the public attention. Which is the point of what the campaign is trying to do.

I think #blacklivesmattertoo (good comment) would have got attention, maybe you underestimate people's capacity for empathy?

[upthemaggies]

Two tweets from opposite sides......

Responding to "Protestors who torn down the statue of a slave trader aren't "thugs". They did us all a favour in a country that continues to glorify Empire".....
"n fact, a country that doesn't just 'glorify Empire', it *participates* in Empire. The whole point about the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, about our arms industry and political/media system, is that they are in support of Empire *now*."

"People are going to be protesting in England today over George Floyd but when someone literally bombed a concert full of children we were told not to look back in anger."

[drillerpie]

Really interesting thread. I haven't been able to comment as I'm busy with work but I'd say UTM is the poster I've found most aligned to my views so far. Lots of thought provoking posts though, from all angles.

[DaveSmithRules]

I got the impression that those who put an alternate view were considered by you racist/unwittingly racist/about to write something racist.

If you're talking about OldPie it was he who raised the idea of 'giving our moderators something to worry about'. At which point I urged him to not do so as I don't want this thread to descend into that.

I do think it's possible to be racist through ignorance if that's what you mean. I believe i've been guilty of that in the past too. Acknowledging that and being prepared to learn and move on is what makes us grow as human beings.

I've watched the video a few people have posted with Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, Lil Wayne and Anthony Mackie too and it's interesting with some valid points. But the things that need pointing out about it are:
- It's been edited together from longer interviews with each person so some context of their conversations is removed
- It's been edited as a piece of propaganda by a channel that describes itself as "an online media platform designed to broadcast conservative values"
- The people in it are very successful black people and their opinions cannot be seen to represent all black people
- I'm not sure the views in it even represent the current views of the people in it. Morgan Freeman, Lil Wayne and Anthony Mackie have all been tweeting or re-tweeting in support of #BlackLivesMatter over the last week.

[Riverleeno]

If you're talking about OldPie it was he who raised the idea of 'giving our moderators something to worry about'. At which point I urged him to not do so as I don't want this thread to descend into that.

I do think it's possible to be racist through ignorance if that's what you mean. I believe i've been guilty of that in the past too. Acknowledging that and being prepared to learn and move on is what makes us grow as human beings.

Thanks for the reply

[navypie]

I thought aliens didn’t exist, but there was a bloke on YouTube the other day saying he’d been anally probed by aliens so that’s proved me wrong.

I suppose that explains how you were conceived.

[navypie]

Really interesting thread. I haven't been able to comment as I'm busy with work but I'd say UTM is the poster I've found most aligned to my views so far. Lots of thought provoking posts though, from all angles.

I always wondered what happened to Steve Davis when he retired............I'm going I'm going.

[BigFatPie]

I suppose that explains how you were conceived.

Talk of anal probing and up pops Sinbad. Perk of the job eh?

[navypie]

Talk of anal probing and up pops Sinbad. Perk of the job eh?

Over the years lardy, you've made it your vocation to mention anal penetration. Time to tell the wife you like a little bit more hair around the arse?