Leeds United - v - Luton Town ***Matchday Thread***

[WTF11]

I know you're 'shouting' (metaphorically), and hugely frustrated, but to what end? Like I said, warts and all this team and this manager is what we've got until the end of this season. The finishing is going to be sh1t, there'll be 100 touches where 10 will do, there'll be mistakes, MB will pick the same starting 11 regardless (unless there's an injury, then he'll just swap 1 for 1 e.g. Berardi for Cooper, Alioski for Dallas). And we'll either go up and it'll be the same again in the PL, or we won't, MB will go, and we'll start all over again without MB.

OWT, not shouting (metaphorically or not), just pointing out that we have no "routine" matches, and that there is only one (kind of) mid-table team and that all others have something to play for (some with chances, no matter how slim, of getting into playoff contention, others desperate to avoid relegation). If you're suggesting that because we can't affect what Bielsa does (which I know we can't) as being cause for not commenting, then we might as well all pack up and close down Footymad?

As for us going up or not, I think (fear) that unlike when we went down to Lg 1, failure this time will be seen by most to be entirely self-inflicted, and also unlike recent times, we are fast running out of die hards who will accept the inevitable if we fail to get promoted, and will switch allegiance to other clubs or even different sports. "F00k 'em" you might say, and in part I agree, but unless we are in the PL, where primary revenue isn't from gate receipts, the club can't survive without supporters. Radrizzani won't stay, neither will the majority of players who are able to jump ship to other Championship clubs, and we will be at the mercy of more barrow boys turned club owners, or in some fantasy world, a rich uncle who has money to burn. Neither is a healthy prospect and there won't be a "start all over again", unless and until we reach rock bottom and are playing Northern League sides in semi-professional football. Such a prospect, for the club I and others have followed for nearly 50 years, is unbearable, but something that our current management and players seem to give very little for.

[LeedsFTW]

Derby, Swansea, Stoke, Barnsley, not a single "mid-table" opponent amongst them. Even Blackburn are on the outer edge if playoff positions.

No game is "routine", and if we cant beat the bottom team, with 75% possession and over 20 shots, then we dont even know what "routine" is, whoever we play.

We will beat all 5 of those, possession and shots count for nowt. Ball in the back of the net does.

Luton and the form they are currently in was always going to be a stern test. 1 point for them is as good as a win so they were never really going to venture forward.

However it is disappointing that we were all huff & puff tonight without any real end product.

My own gripe so far this season is that there has not been a single Leeds player that I see as a genuine goal consistent threat.

[BelfastAndy]

6 points clear with 6 games to go?
That’s got proper fk up wrote all over it.

Dont even know why Im laughing. Think its a nervous schollboy kinda laugh.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Just watched the highlights Bamford had two great chances where he didn’t even connect with the ball.

[WTF11]

Just watched the highlights Bamford had two great chances where he didn’t even connect with the ball.

And that is worthy of note because.........?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Even for him that took some doing - he is so shorn of confidence that if he were a horse he would be shot to put him out of his misery.

PS your comment seems a bit harsh given you often endlessly reply to your own posts

[asturianblanco]

sounds like some of us would prefere a change.
Pehaps Mick McCarthy, hoofball and midtable mediocracy.

[WTF11]

sounds like some of us would prefere a change.
Pehaps Mick McCarthy, hoofball and midtable mediocracy.

"Sounds like some of us would prefere (sic) a change"?

You betcha. A change that converts the 60 - 75% possession we get more or less every game into goals, a change that injects a bit of "nerve" into those who have apprently settled into a nice easy selection process (turn up, and you're in the 1st 11), a change that exploits the universally acknowledged truth that we have the fittest players in the league, who run around a lot but all too often produce no end product. Sure, change that little lot and I suspect it would be very welcome.

[pete1967b]

"Sounds like some of us would prefere (sic) a change"?

You betcha. A change that converts the 60 - 75% possession we get more or less every game into goals, a change that injects a bit of "nerve" into those who have apprently settled into a nice easy selection process (turn up, and you're in the 1st 11), a change that exploits the universally acknowledged truth that we have the fittest players in the league, who run around a lot but all too often produce no end product. Sure, change that little lot and I suspect it would be very welcome.

Is this the same 11 that has got us sitting at the top of the league?

[WTF11]

Is this the same 11 that has got us sitting at the top of the league?

Yep, and the same 11 that lost against Cardiff and were lucky not to do so again, at home, to the team at the bottom of the league. We have done this before, and on current form, we will do it again, unless there is some kind of change (you said in the "value for money" thread that we do best with teams who come at us, not hit us on the break. Which of the remaining games do you think that will happen in?). Just playing "super football" and either losing or not winning is not going to get us over the line. Thing is, we have been like this (60 - 70% possession and tippy-tappy) for so long, we have forgotten how to grind out a win, or hit like we get hit.