O/T Which jab have you had?

[great_fire]

The greatest con-trick for a long time . How progressive leftie/ liberals have become enforcers of an authoritarian state while still believing they are being radical and in opposition to it.

Genius really.

I think authoritarianism has been the goal all along, the reason for mass immigration and multiculturalism, to create an unsettled, disordered and violent society that can only be controlled by authoritarian government.

Blair has certainly been a central figure in this.

[wendun]

The greatest con-trick for a long time . How progressive leftie/ liberals have become enforcers of an authoritarian state while still believing they are being radical and in opposition to it.

Genius really.

You see this is why I called you a liar and hypocrite on your laughable Putin thread. You have had the jab. So too has g_f. But you encourage others not to have it simply because the pair of you are very nasty people. You make me sick.

[the_idiotb_stardson]

Indeed

[WanChaiMiller]

No one knows what the long term effects of the vaccine are simply because a long time period isn't available.
This issue has largely been brushed over by the authorities and medical professionals who are asked to comment in the media.

Feeling unwell for 24, having a sore arm or an extreme minority getting a blood clot aren't really the concern but what about if 30% of the UK population start getting chronic renal or another organ failure in ten years time

As I understand it, and could be completely wrong, the vaccine is not a dose of Covid like the flu jab. From what Ive heard it simulates
an attack by using eliments of the virus to produce a defence response in the body.

I listened to a programme on Spanish flu a couple of weeks back. There were many long lasting effects, much of it phychological. But no more than about 5 years, certainly nothing reported in the programme recurring 30 years later.

[flourbasher]

As I understand it, and could be completely wrong, the vaccine is not a dose of Covid like the flu jab. From what Ive heard it simulates
an attack by using eliments of the virus to produce a defence response in the body.

I listened to a programme on Spanish flu a couple of weeks back. There were many long lasting effects, much of it phychological. But no more than about 5 years, certainly nothing reported in the programme recurring 30 years later.

Different solutions to a different problem in a different era though.
I don't think anyone knows whether there are any long term side effects and the authorities are putting pressure on everyone to have it because the alternative would be unacceptable and catastrophic.
I can see their point and it's a balancing judgement call whereby people have to consider the benefits and risks and then make a decision for themselves

The only problem I have with all this is that when learned people are asked about the long term side effects they aren't actually being honest and respond in an evasive way that suggests it's completely safe. In reality they don't actually know

[WanChaiMiller]

Excellent point flour

Isnt this what you're railing against.

Shouldnt you find the research first before agree with media / social media comment.

[WanChaiMiller]

I think authoritarianism has been the goal all along, the reason for mass immigration and multiculturalism, to create an unsettled, disordered and violent society that can only be controlled by authoritarian government.

Blair has certainly been a central figure in this.

For what purpose?

[great_fire]

For what purpose?

For more power.

Blair has always been power-crazed, as well as having a messiah complex.

[the_idiotb_stardson]

For more power.

Blair has always been power-crazed, as well as having a messiah complex.

Hence the staged arrival at Downing Street, in which people were paid to wave flags for him.....it was then made to look 'spontaneous'

[the_idiotb_stardson]

Isnt this what you're railing against.

Shouldnt you find the research first before agree with media / social media comment.

I said it was a good point....meaning worthy of investigation.

I might have said I agree...if I had an opinion.

Well worth looking into though as you have done.