O/T:- The Ashes 2023

[countygump]

BFP I guess you haven't heard of a thing called the spirit of the game. Bairstow had left his crease for a few balls before Carey decided to run him out, but similarly with the Mankad method of dismissal it is the done thing to give the batsman a warning. Bairstow did not 'get what he deserved' at all.
durham if you think cricket is boring, I guess you wouldn't have watched enough to have that opinion.
That was a herculean effort by England after being 45-4, after two close games, this series could still go either way.

Quite a few differing opinions on that one. Without doubt, technically it was out, though you could argue it was against the "spirit of the game".


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[Ex_Southwell_Magpie]

We can’t pick and choose which rules that apply. At the end of the day Bairstow wandered out of his crease before the ball was deemed dead. That’s on him.
What it’s done has got the owd codgers at Lords getting stuck in to Oz… I don’t mind that. However, Oz haven’t done anything wrong.

You can’t pick and choose rules in cricket as there aren’t any.

[Notts78]

You can’t pick and choose rules in cricket as there aren’t any.

Eh. No rules in cricket?

[Jeekay56]

BFP I guess you haven't heard of a thing called the spirit of the game.

durham if you think cricket is boring, I guess you wouldn't have watched enough to have that opinion.

Didn't you also guess I was a member/supporter of just stop oil?

This would suggest that your guesses are worthless. Let's stick to facts (not something your hero can help you with). lol

PS. The lol is meant to be ironic as I'm considerably older than 14.

[Mark_Ross]

BFP I guess you haven't heard of a thing called the spirit of the game. Bairstow had left his crease for a few balls before Carey decided to run him out, but similarly with the Mankad method of dismissal it is the done thing to give the batsman a warning. Bairstow did not 'get what he deserved' at all.
durham if you think cricket is boring, I guess you wouldn't have watched enough to have that opinion.
That was a herculean effort by England after being 45-4, after two close games, this series could still go either way.

For sure there's not much between the two sides.
However, I can't see how England can win an Ashes test.
England have periods where they drift right out of the game, while the Aussies are merciless, relentless.

Regarding "the incident" - Jonny only has himself to blame.
It should help galvanise the England team & fans with righteous anger though.

[Proactive not Reactive]

To me same old Aussies always cheating 🥲
They have form for cheating, yesterday the catch to dismiss Duckett by Starc(he must have known he had grounded it) but still continued celebrating as a catch
The Bairstow run out stumping it was the end of the over keeper got it in his hands(it wasn’t as if Bairstow was trying to sneak a run) so was underhanded and definitely not in the spirit
Just the same as Sheffield United when they didn’t give the ball back at the throw in and went and scored - stinks and not good for sport

[magpie_mania]

To me same old Aussies always cheating 🥲
They have form for cheating, yesterday the catch to dismiss Duckett by Starc(he must have known he had grounded it) but still continued celebrating as a catch
The Bairstow run out stumping it was the end of the over keeper got it in his hands(it wasn’t as if Bairstow was trying to sneak a run) so was underhanded and definitely not in the spirit
Just the same as Sheffield United when they didn’t give the ball back at the throw in and went and scored - stinks and not good for sport

When Carey threw the ball Bairstow was in his crease.

As some would say, 'It's just not cricket', definitely not how I would want the game to be played.

[Jeekay56]

Racism, ***ism, classism and elitism are "widespread" in English and Welsh cricket, according to a long-awaited independent report.

Within the spririt of the game?

[Notts78]

To me same old Aussies always cheating 🥲
They have form for cheating, yesterday the catch to dismiss Duckett by Starc(he must have known he had grounded it) but still continued celebrating as a catch
The Bairstow run out stumping it was the end of the over keeper got it in his hands(it wasn’t as if Bairstow was trying to sneak a run) so was underhanded and definitely not in the spirit
Just the same as Sheffield United when they didn’t give the ball back at the throw in and went and scored - stinks and not good for sport

We’ve never scored against opposition who kicked the ball at.
I’m not sure Starc would agree about the catch. Personally I thought it was OK, until that is, the rule was read out and the 3rd umpire explained his decision.
The Bairstow incident, I can’t agree with you on. Any normal batter would make sure the keeper has moved the ball on. Ordinarily they throw to a slip. Bairstow was arrogant enough to not even look. Next you’ll be saying that batters can’t be stumped. The only reason some are miffed is because it doesn’t happen. Doesn’t make it wrong.
I can’t buy in to this ‘spirit of the game’ nonsense either. No rules were broken. Just like watching bouncer after bouncer after bouncer.

[jackal2]

Regarding "the incident" - Jonny only has himself to blame.

I agree. I didn't see the incident live, so I heard/read the furore and assumed that the stumping was blatantly late, but I've seen it now and it wasn't. Bairstow simply got sloppy and started walking towards Stokes too soon, virtually as soon as the ball passed him. He's probably done it dozens of times in county cricket and never paid for it, but at Test level the opposition will take any advantage you give them. The lesson is for England to be as ruthless as the Aussies are in such circumstances.