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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    It may be that the Labour vote will come from SNP. Maybe the Labour voters of the past have realised the road to nowhere that they got when they voted SNP. I was doubtful that they would change back.
    The results in Scotland has shown that the former Labour supporters who deserted their party to vote for the SNP have returned back to voting Labour.
    It is very pleasing that all the ALba MPs who had ‘jumped ship’ from the SNP to ALba have all been defeated.
    The ALba candidate in the Angus including Broughty Ferry constituency did not get elected despite an ALba party advertising trailer being illegally erected last Wednesday afternoon on the grass verge beside the A90 trunk road between the Crematorium roundabout and the Camperdown flyover.
    I immediately contacted Amey in Perth who are responsible for the maintenance of trunk roads in the Dundee area and reported this illegally parked ALba party advertising hoarding next to A90 Kingsway.
    I was advised the Incident Unit staff would immediately investigate this and a couple of hours later I received an email advising that offending advertising hoarding had been removed.
    The member of staff in Amey told me that election fly posting and advertising hoardings are not allowed on the Scottish Transport trunk road network with all fly posters and advertising hoardings being immediately removed.
    Hopefully Alex Salmond will now give up his demands that Scotland becomes an independent country and finally accept the result of the September 2014 Scottish independence referendum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    You got it right Deebunked, and I was wrong.

    I didn't think the SNP voters were so intelligent. Imagine them voting in such large numbers against their own party, I am shocked!

    It's the first time I have ever had a sign that independence is not the only thing that matters to SNP voters and I thank them for their tactical voting.

    I imagine it will be back to grievance politics with a bang in Holyrood. I don't know why Labour,Lib Dems, Greens and Conservatives don't pull the plug on Holyrood. Maybe they are waiting for court cases to play out?

    Think Farage had a big impact and I am not convinced that he has any solutions to the problems that face the new Labour government. He was a nuisance when he was an MEP and I think we will grow tired of his disruptive politics.
    In my opinion the Conservative, Labour and Lib Dem parties in Scotland should get together and arrange to put up one anti independence candidate to stand against the SNP candidate in every first past the post constituency seat in the Holyrood elections in May 2026.
    This will defeat every SNP candidate in Scotland.
    Voters must not vote for the Greens in the second list vote to rid of them as well.

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    Islay, it will never happen. Look at the abuse that Conservatives get. Don't think any Conservative nominee for a seat would get support from the other political parties. Maybe there will be a continuing backlash from Scottish voters delivered by SNP voters? If they can vote Labour for Westminster, why would they not carry on and vote Labour for Holyrood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Islay, it will never happen. Look at the abuse that Conservatives get. Don't think any Conservative nominee for a seat would get support from the other political parties. Maybe there will be a continuing backlash from Scottish voters delivered by SNP voters? If they can vote Labour for Westminster, why would they not carry on and vote Labour for Holyrood?
    We would have got rid of Chris Law if the Lid Dems and Conservatives did not have a candidate standing in the Dundee West constituency in the 2024 General election.
    The SNP would have lost every seat they managed to win in the 2024 General election.
    The Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber constituency proves this.
    The SNP candidate won the seat with 34% of the vote but the Conservative, Labour and Lib Dems candidates votes totalled 56% of the total vote.
    The Conservative candidate came second with the Labour and Lib Dem candidate within one thousand votes of each other n third and fourth place.
    An anti independence candidate going ‘head to head’ with the SNP candidate would get rid of the SNP MPs and SNP MSPs first past the post MSPs once and for all as at present the anti independence vote is being split amongst the Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem candidates.
    The Greens and ALba are a waste of space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    We would have got rid of Chris Law if the Lid Dems and Conservatives did not have a candidate standing in the Dundee West constituency in the 2024 General election.
    The SNP would have lost every seat they managed to win in the 2024 General election.
    The Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber constituency proves this.
    The SNP candidate won the seat with 34% of the vote but the Conservative, Labour and Lib Dems candidates votes totalled 56% of the total vote.
    The Conservative candidate came second with the Labour and Lib Dem candidate within one thousand votes of each other n third and fourth place.
    An anti independence candidate going ‘head to head’ with the SNP candidate would get rid of the SNP MPs and SNP MSPs first past the post MSPs once and for all as at present the anti independence vote is being split amongst the Labour, Conservative and Lib Dem candidates.
    The Greens and ALba are a waste of space.
    Contrary to your twisted logic, people should be allowed to vote for who they choose not on the basis of who they can stop.

    The STV system in Scotland is relatively fair compared to Westminster, our politics isn't only about independence it's about cost of living, immigration, health and education for example.

    Not everyone gets up in the morning and thinks about how to destroy the SNP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    You got it right Deebunked, and I was wrong.

    I didn't think the SNP voters were so intelligent. Imagine them voting in such large numbers against their own party, I am shocked!

    It's the first time I have ever had a sign that independence is not the only thing that matters to SNP voters and I thank them for their tactical voting.

    I imagine it will be back to grievance politics with a bang in Holyrood. I don't know why Labour,Lib Dems, Greens and Conservatives don't pull the plug on Holyrood. Maybe they are waiting for court cases to play out?

    Think Farage had a big impact and I am not convinced that he has any solutions to the problems that face the new Labour government. He was a nuisance when he was an MEP and I think we will grow tired of his disruptive politics.
    I don't think the SNP voters were tactical.

    I think a few things happened:

    1. the trust is gone after sturgeon had it for a long time
    2. the snp have rabbited on about nothing but independence for so long most of us tired of it and them
    3. the snp stopped talking about independence during campaigning which alienated their own floating support

    After such a long time getting it easy people have simply said enough. It's volatile though and they can get them back for 2026 which i presume they will do by going back to the indy drum beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebunked View Post
    Contrary to your twisted logic, people should be allowed to vote for who they choose not on the basis of who they can stop.

    The STV system in Scotland is relatively fair compared to Westminster, our politics isn't only about independence it's about cost of living, immigration, health and education for example.

    Not everyone gets up in the morning and thinks about how to destroy the SNP.
    It appears the SNP get up in the morning and think about how to destroy Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    It appears the SNP get up in the morning and think about how to destroy Scotland.
    Couldn't disagree with that, and that's why they should be losing in elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Islay, it will never happen. Look at the abuse that Conservatives get. Don't think any Conservative nominee for a seat would get support from the other political parties. Maybe there will be a continuing backlash from Scottish voters delivered by SNP voters? If they can vote Labour for Westminster, why would they not carry on and vote Labour for Holyrood?
    Quote Originally Posted by Deebunked View Post
    I don't think the SNP voters were tactical.

    I think a few things happened:

    1. the trust is gone after sturgeon had it for a long time
    2. the snp have rabbited on about nothing but independence for so long most of us tired of it and them
    3. the snp stopped talking about independence during campaigning which alienated their own floating support

    After such a long time getting it easy people have simply said enough. It's volatile though and they can get them back for 2026 which i presume they will do by going back to the indy drum beat.
    That's the trouble, I'd be quite happy with any Holyrood government provided they concentrated in running our country effectively. I think the Civil Service are much more involved in the stuff that goes wrong and it isn't all the fault of the MSP's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    The Greens and ALba are a waste of space.
    As are your racist, twisted, skewed logic posts on this football forum.
    Last edited by Dens Park Dynamo; 05-07-2024 at 05:07 PM. Reason: typo

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