Ok, not football at all, but it matters, eventually.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

The left smears people in the centre and to the right it fears instead of having a proper sensible debate for fear it might lose it.

If you look at many of the people who publicly came out to support Trump many could be described as fairly sane and sensible but the moment that spoke for Trump they themselves became attacked.

The democrats don’t really seem to stand up for the rights of ordinary people as opposed to supporting minority interests or their own agendas.

The 1980s same a much bigger disparity in ideological views yet there was respectful discourse.

[MrsORichSenior_]

instead of having a proper sensible debate.... ..... a much bigger disparity in ideological views yet there was "respectful discourse".

My Mum, Irish & Derry to the core..... now 90 lived the years of the late 1950's "Troubles" but the impact of the conflicts abuse remains with her to this day.........despite moving through several countries to be closer to her family.
........so my opinions of politics and of verbal abuse, its effects & support requirement are very real via family backgrounds history..... as are 'loose' politicians holding the powers and what they do with them........so maybe more decorum on here ladies and gentlemen as WE are all Leeds.☺ [alledgedly].

MOT

[MrsORichSenior_]

Francew,

Apologies, no reason to get all bowed up like I did.

Spaldy ....... your a top bloke.
......... my Mum actually lived in Baraboo Wisconsin for a while with my elder brother which was a beautiful back then...... sadly I was to young to remember much of my only visit there.

Keep posting as your lifes views are captivating..........

MOT

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

My Mum, Irish & Derry to the core..... now 90 lived the years of the late 1950's "Troubles" but the impact of the conflicts abuse remains with her to this day.........despite moving through several countries to be closer to her family.
........so my opinions of politics and of verbal abuse, its effects & support requirement are very real via family backgrounds history..... as are 'loose' politicians holding the powers and what they do with them........so maybe more decorum on here ladies and gentlemen as WE are all Leeds.☺ [alledgedly].

MOT

Great sentiment but good luck with that - ponders why that might be 🤔🤣🤣

[Orgoner]

And there’s football on…

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

The football tonight might require venting is steam

[Orgoner]

Just catching up on here.

Pretty much agree with Mrs O.

I’ve quite enjoyed this thread (some interesting observations from both sides of the political divide), but if we could keep it to reasoned arguments instead of, well, you know, we can carry on without my needing to get involved.

A little steam venting is fine, but no more than that please!

[Oranje White]

To that lefty retard, Will Feral, please STFU about your opinion on Trump. We don't care what you think. You're just an overpaid actor who invested in Leeds United. If you don't like Trump, then leave the US. But there are plenty of countries who don't want woke crybabies like yourself. Your fellow actors have claimed they will drink Drano, put themselves through a wood chipper, flee the US etc etc if Trump won. Well, he did win. Let's see how many actually do what they said they'd do. In the meantime, please stop embarrassing Leeds United (that's the player's job....LOL....joke).

[Francewhite]

Hi Spaldy, don't worry and apology not necessary as maybe we all get a bit over excited at times. It's life!

[spaldy]

I"m too old to be running around acting like a keyboard warrior! I know better.

It will be interesting to see how some of the election outcomes worldwide play out. It will be kind of like a real world economics case study in some cases. Argentina's last election is having major impact on their economy and eventually will likely affect the global economy. They have the potential to be a world power economically.

The UK has gone the other route. They have elected a more government control, free spending government so they could be considered going the opposite direction. China is throwing money around like a drunken sailor trying to re*****ize their economy. The US has 287K of debt per citizen and spends 20k more per citizen than they bring in tax wise. It's a ticking time bomb for many of the world's largest economies and it's not likely to end well for those countries and the world overall.

The outliers such as Venezuela and Brazil are blessed with Natural resources that should put them in the top tier of the worlds economies an they are train wrecks. Some analysis's of Venezuela puts them as the the world richest country natural resource wise per capita and they are one of the poorest countries, per capita, in the world.