O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Trickytreesreds]

I don’t think so...but ’religiophobe’ appears to be...and you may be one.

Only by the urban dictionary.
It is a word invented to try and get folks to back down from saying things that aren't illegal.
To be a homophobe is, but to dislike a religion is not.

Funny thing is, Muslims are religiophobes, as they will not accept any religion apart from Islam.

In certain countries it can cost you your life under apostasy laws.

[Andy_Faber]

Given that we don’t play again until a week on Friday I think you might be in need of a few ‘anecdotes’.
The point of mine was that there are very fine lines and distinct overlaps between racism and those who are anti Muslim which I fully appreciate is a religion not a ‘race’.
It’s quite likely to be my fault, but I’m just not sure what you’re suggesting about this ‘sophisticated understanding’ you speak of or what your last sentence means.

'Sophisticated' might be the wrong word. Lets go for 'well informed' and 'targetted'. South Asian as a homogenous group doesn't really exist as a focus for hate in any online discussions I come across. Such hate centres on those with certain characteristics of ethnic origin and religious belief which I guess you can work out for yourself - so, would include UK domiciled South Asian Muslims but wouldn't include for instance Slavic Muslims, Uighurs or Rohingyas (who are all seen, even by all but the most evil of haters, as oppressed). This is an observation defo not an endorsement by me and remember my complex family diversity.

[ramAnag]

'Sophisticated' might be the wrong word. Lets go for 'well informed' and 'targetted'. South Asian as a homogenous group doesn't really exist as a focus for hate in any online discussions I come across. Such hate centres on those with certain characteristics of ethnic origin and religious belief which I guess you can work out for yourself - so, would include UK domiciled South Asian Muslims but wouldn't include for instance Slavic Muslims, Uighurs or Rohingyas (who are all seen, even by all but the most evil of haters, as oppressed). This is an observation defo not an endorsement by me and remember my complex family diversity.

It must be me. The only online discussions I participate in are on here and I’m sorry I really don’t get what you’re saying.
There seems to be something you’re reluctant to be specific about but I don’t know what it is and no...I’m not trying to set some sort of ‘trap’...I don’t do that...I just don’t understand what you’re saying.

[Andy_Faber]

It must be me. The only online discussions I participate in are on here and I’m sorry I really don’t get what you’re saying.
There seems to be something you’re reluctant to be specific about but I don’t know what it is and no...I’m not trying to set some sort of ‘trap’...I don’t do that...I just don’t understand what you’re saying.

I'm saying that your anecdote is out of date, hate towards groups based on race, nationality, religion etc is a lot more targetted these days, I can certainly see a LOT more focus on specific groups than in my schooldays, when the hate was focussed on what we now call BAME, as a homogenous group

[Geoff Parkstone]

It seems that, as an expression, the word BAME has died about as fast as it started - maybe 5 years shelf life: still shorter than a fax machine

[Andy_Faber]

It seems that, as an expression, the word BAME has died about as fast as it started - maybe 5 years shelf life: still shorter than a fax machine

Lasted longer than laser discs though, and DCC

[ramAnag]

I'm saying that your anecdote is out of date, hate towards groups based on race, nationality, religion etc is a lot more targetted these days, I can certainly see a LOT more focus on specific groups than in my schooldays, when the hate was focussed on what we now call BAME, as a homogenous group

By definition it is an anecdote from six months short of twenty years ago.
Beyond that...I’ll take your word for it.

[swaledale]

It must be me. The only online discussions I participate in are on here and I’m sorry I really don’t get what you’re saying.
There seems to be something you’re reluctant to be specific about but I don’t know what it is and no...I’m not trying to set some sort of ‘trap’...I don’t do that...I just don’t understand what you’re saying.

Its not that AF is deliberately opaque rA, its rather that he has a contradictory point of view, must be difficult reconciling his true thoughts with those he actually posts.

[swaledale]

There's a huge problem with counterfeit money, but that doesn't mean we scrap money.

Although cash is going out of fashion so maybe there won't be any actual physical money to counterfeit?

[ramAnag]

According to Boris Johnson the ‘success of the vaccine’ is down to capitalism and greed. Not only that but apparently, ‘greed is good’.
What a complete tool we have as PM.