Sturgeonland

[Mason89]

Maybe something to do with their vile, divisive, racist undertones, the fact that the Party became virtually synonymous with independence and made a complete mess of almost everything that they touched, failing ever to recognise their significant deficiencies. As for the financial risks of independence, the list goes on and on ….

The financial risks of remaining in the union, look far greater to me.

You keep rhyming off a list, without a really saying anything. There is nothing that could possibly change your mind on the subject, which is fine but listing fictional grievances is a bit odd

[InversneckieDob]

"I'd like to think" is as close to predicting the future as I'll get.
And "we" and "our" are intended solely as pure nouns.
That level of devolved socio-political decision making would be my model of choice within an independent Scotland, to me that IS grown up politics.
The subsidiary question is always going to be an issue, "Weegies" and "Tuechtars" and "Snotty cu nts fae Embra" sitting in Holyrood putting their vested interests aside to govern in the interests of the local people (in local shops) throughout the land?
The first hurdle is getting past the thatcherite and post-thatcherite mentality of "me first".
A high hurdle but surely achievable?
If not WTF is the point?

There's no doubt the SNP has sh@t the bed over, certainly the latter part of, their time in Government.
Devolution should not look like this.
I suppose the greatest compliment and insult that can simultaneously be directed at them is they now look indistinguishable from the political parties UK wide.

[donsdaft]

Ah

Four legs good, two legs better.

[InversneckieDob]

Ah

Four legs good, two legs better.

In ice skating, yes.
In the Grand National nae so much.

[stewarty27]

Maybe something to do with their vile, divisive, racist undertones, the fact that the Party became virtually synonymous with independence and made a complete mess of almost everything that they touched, failing ever to recognise their significant deficiencies. As for the financial risks of independence, the list goes on and on ….

Oh dearie me a glimpse inside the mind of a obnoxious right wing absolutist. "vile" "divisive" "racist" are the SNP ! A party that's been elected time and time again by the people of Scotland, This is the kind of hypocrisy you'd get from someone like Farage. Who like this **** has no idea or concept of why people want to leave the "vile" "divisive" "racist" Union. Nasty ignorance at its best....

[Shetland Don]

The financial risks of remaining in the union, look far greater to me.

You keep rhyming off a list, without a really saying anything. There is nothing that could possibly change your mind on the subject, which is fine but listing fictional grievances is a bit odd

“Fictional grievances”!? FFS, wake up min.

Have you had any recent experience of family members being in the education system? Have you spoken to teachers about the CforE and its many shortcomings? Have you seen how obscurely exam questions are set nowadays? Did the disgraceful ferry debacle not happen? Did you witness Sturgeon’s hatred of pretty much everything not related to independence and the SNP over the last decade or more, especially the English?

The things I mentioned in my earlier post DID actually happen and it’s delusional to claim otherwise.

[Shetland Don]

Oh dearie me a glimpse inside the mind of a obnoxious right wing absolutist. "vile" "divisive" "racist" are the SNP ! A party that's been elected time and time again by the people of Scotland, This is the kind of hypocrisy you'd get from someone like Farage. Who like this **** has no idea or concept of why people want to leave the "vile" "divisive" "racist" Union. Nasty ignorance at its best....

Mostly elected as a direct protest against the Westminster Government rather that due to anything the SNP ever did remotely well. Nothing remotely nasty in MY post but do feel free to review your own, ideally before posting. And, most people don’t want to leave the Union.

[donsdaft]

Practically no one wanted to join it.

[57vintage]

I suppose the greatest compliment and insult that can simultaneously be directed at them is they now look indistinguishable from the political parties UK wide.

That isn’t recent. Devolution saved them from almost total oblivion. In 1992, Salmond floated his “Free by ‘93” schtick, and after a baker’s dozen of years under the yoke, I voted non-tactically for The Party. The result was that the sitting Liberal MP’s majority shrank to 274 (-12%) from 1987’s 9500, nearly handing it to John Porter, the (albeit almost pleasant) Tory. In 2019, my hand forced by the EU farce, I had to vote tactically for The Party, and some now-invisible nationalist placeman won it, and threw his hand in with The Continuity Candidate recently.

2017 was much easier. A proper mannies’ mildly social democratic manifesto was on offer, and I walked out of the polling station with my head held high for the first time since 1992. I noted later on that night/next morning that the so-called Caledonian comrades lost their bearings in not voting for anti-free-marketeers’ left-of-centre offer, calling somewhat into account the notion that Mr, Mrs, Ms, Mz and other salutationary designations of Joe/Josephine MacPublic are as collectively-minded as they claim when given the opportunity.

You’ve a generation of entitled but loyal dross to clear from the benches, the committees, the machine, the ‘middle management’ (as my exploited nationalist pal called them), and the cosy new Scottish political establishment before there exists an organisation serious about its stated aim, with the accountable urge to deliver for those who it currently takes for granted by making their lives better. The old guard had some skilful, powerful operators, but they have retired and/or been marginalised and not replaced as admirable radicalism has given way to pragmatic “progressivism”. Stuff it.

[Mason89]

“Fictional grievances”!? FFS, wake up min.

Have you had any recent experience of family members being in the education system? Have you spoken to teachers about the CforE and its many shortcomings? Have you seen how obscurely exam questions are set nowadays? Did the disgraceful ferry debacle not happen? Did you witness Sturgeon’s hatred of pretty much everything not related to independence and the SNP over the last decade or more, especially the English?

The things I mentioned in my earlier post DID actually happen and it’s delusional to claim otherwise.

My missus is a teacher (rules don’t apply)

Please, share your concerns over educational standards in Scotland.

I’ve tried to explain the ‘ferry debacle’ but you don’t really give a f*ck. Its just something easy to fire out while having a pointless rant. I grew up, lived on, worked on, holiday on & got married on the island that one of these new ferries is going to service. The islanders aren’t that fussed in my experience.

Sturgron does not hate the English you f*cking melt