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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    She was voted in from a shortlist of 4 by local party members.
    The shortlist was imposed upon them, with no local candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    The shortlist was imposed upon them, with no local candidates.
    If you're aware of Sophie Wilson's involvement over Spearmint Rhino in Sheffield you will see she's an arrogant and unpleasant piece of work. Her Twitter comments are educational and she called Sammy Woodhouse, a Rotherham *** abuse victim, "trashy".

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    Whilst I agree that it would be better to have MPs coming from/living in a constituency, non local MPs are the norm around the country and is the same across all parties, not just Labour:

    http://www.democraticaudit.com/2013/...ve-us-believe/

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    Brexit Party Chairman said a couple of days ago on Radio 4 they are campaigning for a trade deal with no political ties and to support Johnson's Transition Deal.

    There are no parties in this election campaigning for a clean break no deal.

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    Is there a link where we can see which candidates are standing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Is there a link where we can see which candidates are standing?
    On here:

    https://www.electoralcommission.org....on-information

    But the info doesn't go on until 2 weeks before the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    I'm pretty certain many middle of the road tory voters are as uncomfortable with Johnson and Farage at the wheel as much as they probably are with Corbyn .

    For traditional tory voters I'm very sceptical that Farage had added any value at all to the tory election campaign , it could be the complete opposite in fact .

    Johnson to me looks as though he's in his own bubble with the despicable Rees Mogg blowing in his ear .

    It seems in this election campaign so far both Johnson and Corbyn have removed themselves from their core voters .

    I doubt there is one single person who can predict with any great accuracy the outcome of this particular election .

    When push comes to shove and you are inside the polling station pencil in hand many are going to take a deep breath and I suspect many won't bother at all .

    The truth is nobody is electable but that seems to be where we are .

    A very poor state of affairs .
    Conservatives won’t win the election animal.
    Labour will gift it them all wrapped with a pink ribbon on it.
    Sad thing is a lot of moderate Labour MP’s will lose their seats.
    The moderate Labour haven’t yet worked out how to bring it back to centre and mainstream politics.
    If Labour don’t hit 209 seats like Michael Foot did then Corbyn and McDonnell need to walk the next morning, take Abbott and Thornberry with them, although Emily is on dodgy ground and may lose her seat to the Libdems.

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    I think that quite a few moderates have already left the Labour Party Frank. That's the worrying thing - even if Labour were to suffer a resounding defeat (and I think it far from clear that they will) and a moderate like Starmer were elected as leader, the NEC is controlled by Corbynista class-warriors who will continue to push far left policies amd oppose any return to sanity.

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    Something's happened since the morning of the 9th..............nothing but silence
    Bit like buses none for ages then 3 all at once
    Last edited by Exiletyke; 13-11-2019 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Whilst I agree that it would be better to have MPs coming from/living in a constituency, non local MPs are the norm around the country and is the same across all parties, not just Labour:

    http://www.democraticaudit.com/2013/...ve-us-believe/
    Indeed. I recall an election in Rotherham in the 70s when Labour quite rightly made a fuss about the Tory candidate being from Portsmouth, but that's not really the point being made here is it?

    The Rother Valley shortlist was imposed upon the constituency party by the National Labour Party, for which read Momentum.

    Do you think the shortlist consisted of people who were thought to be best informed on Rother Valley issues, or do you think it possible that it consisted of Momentum members who know all the words to 'Oh Jeremy Corbyn' and can hold the tune?

    It's that approach that gave Jared O'Mara to the folk of Sheffield Hallam and will create more Jared's this time round.

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