O/T:- Covid Trump

[upthemaggies]

Trump has always been the perfect man for the job.

I'm not sure China would prefer Trump.

[Mapperleypie]

I'm not sure China would prefer Trump.

I'm pretty certain they would. They are in a far stronger position relative to the US now than they were 4 years ago.

[drillerpie]

If what's happening in Portland spreads, the US is in big big trouble.

"A mob of antifa have descended on the home of Portland city council member Dan Ryan for voting against @JoAnnPDX’s amendment to defund police." They've also attacked a church that runs a shelter for the homeless.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...81011255042048

Not really a surprise to anyone who has been following what has been happening there.

[drillerpie]

There’s zero evidence of any fraud in the US election, either postal or in person.

It seems to me generally that voting should be made as easy as possible. Elections should be held on Sundays, with postal ballots available, and even electronic voting where it has been verified as secure. Postal ballots seem an especially good idea during a pandemic.

Politicians who benefit from low turnouts are usually the people who want to suppress voting and make it as hard as possible.

Electronic voting is secure until it's not secure. As soon as the USA announced it had a foolproof electronic voting system, the world's hackers would set about trying to hit the jackpot and crash it.

In person voting is the best way of protecting the integrity of the vote, but can make it awkward if there are long queues and people are busy, and even that's not perfect; in some parts of southern Italy they have had to try to ban people taking mobile phones into voting booths as organised crime gangs will buy your vote for 80 euros but you have to take a photo of your completed polling slip to collect your money.

Maybe in-person elections that run for two or three days (Friday to Sunday?) would be the best option?

[jackal2]

Electronic voting is secure until it's not secure. As soon as the USA announced it had a foolproof electronic voting system, the world's hackers would set about trying to hit the jackpot and crash it.

In person voting is the best way of protecting the integrity of the vote, but can make it awkward if there are long queues and people are busy, and even that's not perfect; in some parts of southern Italy they have had to try to ban people taking mobile phones into voting booths as organised crime gangs will buy your vote for 80 euros but you have to take a photo of your completed polling slip to collect your money.

Maybe in-person elections that run for two or three days (Friday to Sunday?) would be the best option?

Good idea that is.

[magpie_mania]

Back to my point though, if it is that huge, if he knew how it would happen and was so sure it would, why has he done nothing about it previously?

Interesting that nothing like this occurred in 2016. Obviously there is more postal voting this time.

He is behaving like a little kid who can't get his own way. Sad thing is that he believes it is all true and I can't see him backing down. He really doesn't care what may happen in the country, collateral damage is fine as long as he keeps the position.

His sons are now complaining that some prominent Republicans aren't willing to back him, already with threats that 'We'll remember this in 2024'.

[Evesham Pie]

Can you believe anything that comes out of Trump's mouth? Really?

If the Democrats were trying to "fix" the election they haven't done a very good job. Not only is the Presidential race still too tight to call but they've also failed to regain control of the Senate.

The sooner Trump is gone the better. Maybe a bit of dignity might return to the White House.

[crazyfists]

Can you believe anything that comes out of Trump's mouth? Really?

If the Democrats were trying to "fix" the election they haven't done a very good job. Not only is the Presidential race still too tight to call but they've also failed to regain control of the Senate.

The sooner Trump is gone the better. Maybe a bit of dignity might return to the White House.

This.

[Mapperleypie]

Biden now leads in Pennsylvania too. It's over. Trump does simply not have the numbers.

[drillerpie]

Biden now leads in Pennsylvania too. It's over. Trump does simply not have the numbers.

Pending a Supreme Court ruling though.