⚽ Match Thread vs. Chesterfield FC 20.08.22 [NL]

[Magpies1959]

Not wanting to harp on about the booing, or just lack of supportive noise from our fan base, but I fear this will inevitably lead to a loss of confidence in players, in turn affecting results and turning fortress ML into a place where opposing team will relish visiting. Add this to our deficiencies, from recent seasons, away from home and things could get messy.
To be fair to Chesterfield fans, they stayed with their team even after giving up a two goal lead. That is support we can only dream of.

[jackal2]

Not wanting to harp on about the booing, or just lack of supportive noise from our fan base, but I fear this will inevitably lead to a loss of confidence in players, in turn affecting results and turning fortress ML into a place where opposing team will relish visiting. Add this to our deficiencies, from recent seasons, away from home and things could get messy.

That's the risk, but therein lies the lesson for the Head Coach or whoever seems to favour overplaying in bad areas. Read the room (or in this case the crowd) and adapt the playing style so it doesn't bring unnecessary pressure on your players. This isn't a plea for long-ball football - God forbid I never want to see Steve Thompson-style football again in my life! - but just restrict the risk taking to the parts of the pitch where it threatens the opposition and not ourselves!

[laddo]

I once left a Steve Thompson home game at half time........ I had to queue to get out the ground.

[Magpies1959]

If the owners dictate the playing style, and will not alter their ideals, then come October I can see us playing to a near empty Pavis stand, better that than having the crowd on the players backs. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion, but it rarely ends well in terms booing your own team.

[Old_pie]

If the owners dictate the playing style, and will not alter their ideals, then come October I can see us playing to a near empty Pavis stand, better that than having the crowd on the players backs. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion, but it rarely ends well in terms booing your own team.

I thought the owners were driven by statistics and not dogma. In which case their own analysis of the situation should lead them to the correct solutions.

[jacobncfc]

Thoughts:

I actually thought we started the game really well and were the only team in it really until they scored.

Goal rattled us completely, as it did for a bit against Gateshead. We still seem to have a bit of a mentality problem when things started going against us.

Much of the rest of the first half was a mess, and a the start of the second half was awful. No intensity to anything we did at all. I think the wing backs did okay individually but they just don’t look completely natural in that position, and we have a huge problem in central midfield. It’s clear Williams wants someone alongside Palmer who has some presence and wins second balls, as O’Brien once could, but his legs simply aren’t up to any more than half an hour bursts any more. We’ve got to sign someone in that position who ideally has a bit of height and a proper engine. Austin could be this player short term, but doesn’t help with the lack of height in there.

Game changed completely with the subs and over 90 we probably had the better chances tbh, Langstaff will probably feel he should’ve scored another two. I’m a bit less down than others because I think a lot of our planning is around Scott and Langstaff as a front two, hopefully we’re closer to seeing that.

We need to find a way to get those two in with Rodrigues a bit higher up the pitch as well. Thought he did some good stuff but it was all around the half way line rather than the edge of the box.

Chesterfield looked good in parts, but let’s be honest if we’d folded like that from 2-0 up then the players would be getting absolutely killed on here. It’s a long season, I expect both teams to be there or there abouts.

[Hoppie]

Thoughts:

I actually thought we started the game really well and were the only team in it really until they scored.

Goal rattled us completely, as it did for a bit against Gateshead. We still seem to have a bit of a mentality problem when things started going against us.

Much of the rest of the first half was a mess, and a the start of the second half was awful. No intensity to anything we did at all. I think the wing backs did okay individually but they just don’t look completely natural in that position, and we have a huge problem in central midfield. It’s clear Williams wants someone alongside Palmer who has some presence and wins second balls, as O’Brien once could, but his legs simply aren’t up to any more than half an hour bursts any more. We’ve got to sign someone in that position who ideally has a bit of height and a proper engine. Austin could be this player short term, but doesn’t help with the lack of height in there.

Game changed completely with the subs and over 90 we probably had the better chances tbh, Langstaff will probably feel he should’ve scored another two. I’m a bit less down than others because I think a lot of our planning is around Scott and Langstaff as a front two, hopefully we’re closer to seeing that.

We need to find a way to get those two in with Rodrigues a bit higher up the pitch as well. Thought he did some good stuff but it was all around the half way line rather than the edge of the box.

Chesterfield looked good in parts, but let’s be honest if we’d folded like that from 2-0 up then the players would be getting absolutely killed on here. It’s a long season, I expect both teams to be there or there abouts.

Great post. We’ve been waiting 5 years (since Yates) for midfield player with presence and the ability to win those 50/50 clashes that turn games and generate momentum swings. I’ll give NA credit for at least trying to address it when he bought in Doyle, JOB and Rose but nothing even attempting to fix it since those 3. Too much talk about the back line and not enough focus on what’s in front - Had Yates stayed all season we could be talking about richard Duffy as a league 2 champion - just think about that for a minute.

[SwalePie]

I thought the owners were driven by statistics and not dogma. In which case their own analysis of the situation should lead them to the correct solutions.

This ^

[Elite_Pie]

If the owners dictate the playing style, and will not alter their ideals, then come October I can see us playing to a near empty Pavis stand.

If the Reedtz Brothers sold the club back to Alan Hardy, he appointed Jamie Fullarton as manager, changed our shirt colour to red, even then the Pavis stand wouldn't be near empty.

Us old farts are made of much sterner stuff than that.

Although the red shirts would make me think twice.

[durhampie]

If the owners dictate the playing style, and will not alter their ideals, then come October I can see us playing to a near empty Pavis stand, better that than having the crowd on the players backs. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion, but it rarely ends well in terms booing your own team.

I would assume from your user name that you have never known Notts to be successful, only to ever see them struggle against constant relegation battles. That's why you keep defending them against the critics, because being sub standard football is all you have ever witnessed..