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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    Before Wembley I only remember him playing a couple of cup games (FA Trophy?) and being widely ridiculed on here. Could be wrong though.
    He played a bunch of games when Slocombe was injured again just before Wrexham away and had a couple of clean sheets and a penalty save. Seemed assured but Slocombe came back in for Wrexham as it was a crutch game

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    Before Wembley I only remember him playing a couple of cup games (FA Trophy?) and being widely ridiculed on here. Could be wrong though.
    He had a ‘mare against Maidstone in the FA Trophy, but was excellent at Altrincham when we won 2-0 and he saved a penalty.

    I guess the new ethos is to try to buy players rather than bring them in on loan, but I’d have been much happier with Archie in goal this season than either Stone or Slocombe.

    I see young Brooks is getting mixed reviews from Rochdale fans on Twitter - complaints about his distribution and ability to come for crosses. He did save a penalty last night, but I’ll be surprised if he’s our first choice keeper next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjoPie View Post
    Why change a system that has been so successful? - just needs re-adjusting to suit L2. When watching so many successful clubs you can see that Notts are playing the modern game. Long may it continue for me anyway I doubt the Bros would want to change their model probabthey would rather change their club.
    isn't it the definition of madness - doing the same thing over and over even though you know it's going to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodypie View Post
    isn't it the definition of madness - doing the same thing over and over even though you know it's going to fail.
    Has it actually failed though? - most clubs below us are playing different styles but they are still below us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodypie View Post
    isn't it the definition of madness - doing the same thing over and over even though you know it's going to fail.
    It's certainly one of the most commonly used cliches on message boards, in the absence of a properly explained counter argument.

    For the overwhelming majority of the past two years (at least), the system has been very successful, so the definition of madness would actually be to completely abandon something that has worked more often than not. The sensible reaction to the struggles of the past two months or so should be to tweak the system and personnel until you've addressed the weaknesses.

    Even if we did decide to change our way of playing dramatically, that change would still need to be introduced very gradually. One of the big factors behind our decline and relegation to the non-league was the habit of upheaving almost the whole squad every summer. Whatever we do from here, it needs to be evolution, not revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    It's certainly one of the most commonly used cliches on message boards, in the absence of a properly explained counter argument.

    For the overwhelming majority of the past two years (at least), the system has been very successful, so the definition of madness would actually be to completely abandon something that has worked more often than not. The sensible reaction to the struggles of the past two months or so should be to tweak the system and personnel until you've addressed the weaknesses.

    Even if we did decide to change our way of playing dramatically, that change would still need to be introduced very gradually. One of the big factors behind our decline and relegation to the non-league was the habit of upheaving almost the whole squad every summer. Whatever we do from here, it needs to be evolution, not revolution.
    Well said Jackal

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    Careful mate, some on here seem to think that Brooks is the new Gordon Banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tied_up_in_notts View Post
    Careful mate, some on here seem to think that Brooks is the new Gordon Banks.
    Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and all that.

    I think we’re all hoping we enjoy some success bringing players through the youth set-up in the coming years, which adds pressure on the likes of Brooks.

    You’d have to say history is against him, though - other than Saul Deeney, I’m struggling to remember a single keeper who proved “a keeper” for Notts in my near 50 years following us. James Walker had a good career after we let him go, but I can’t think of anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    He played a bunch of games when Slocombe was injured again just before Wrexham away and had a couple of clean sheets and a penalty save. Seemed assured but Slocombe came back in for Wrexham as it was a crutch game
    Ah ok, apologies in that case. I remember Brooks having a bit of a run but not Mair - my mistake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    Ah ok, apologies in that case. I remember Brooks having a bit of a run but not Mair - my mistake!
    Brooks did have a run out but his distribution was severely lacking. Mair was definitely the all round better keeper

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