The Corona Virus

[Norder]

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My other question to all of you is did those people have to die ? The answers no, yes some were ill with other issues but were like me and you enjoying our children and grand children etc, to hear people talk they make it sound like these people who died already are like cars ready to go to the scrap yard.

Speaking from experience if you’d had it you wouldn’t comment like you do on here.

your correct army....many have died before their time - with much needed operations cancelled....depression, the will to live, locked up,how many just gave up...? very saddening..

As for Covid - was made possible to diagnose as cause of death, without testing even, but then, as the test itself (now belatedly admitted) is not fit for the purpose (it's inventor did say it wasn't meant for diagnostics, but that was ignored)....they could say it was convid, and who would question it ? - they still aren't....A friend of mine had a problem , spoke to the Doc over the phone, the prognosis - they had Long Covid - yes, he decided that through a telephone line....my friend, astounded ,replied - "as I haven't had short Covid, is that a good or bad thing "....we have to laugh.

Looking at the all cause numbers....some years are deadlier than others, it normal....there's years where deaths take a massive jump ....France in 2015 was the highest since 1945, same with Italy in 2014/15, - with 9.1% excess mortality !...isn't that in the area being touted with Covid ?.....In fact - 2014/15 was bad throughout europe - 14 countries reporting higher deaths than the previous 4 years - do we remember it ?.....likely not, even though yearly deaths were on the rise again from around 2010. So what was last year....can see up until week 47..2020- 542,463....but go back to 1980 - 581,385....1985 - 590,734 or 1991 - 570,044, then 2018 was much lower, even though it had the highest number of deaths since 1999, with 541.589...... . Complicated, isn't it.especially when if you try and work out all the....many varying determinants, it not so simple.


Cheers,

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[Balanbam00]

Of course we all have opinions, ''what's it all about Alfi?'' I can view life as we are all on a ladder ,yet many/all, are on different rungs! What one can see from the bottom will be different than someone on the topmost rung. That is their 'reality'. So what then is the reality? Life can be as a roller coaster, some have felt suffering and hardship ,others less. Some have felt deeply the staggering highs and lows ,yet others not. So what is the reality?

Does that person that has felt suffering and hardship, ask of himself, why me? Does he then start to find deeper answers to life? Would he ask those basic questions ? Would he seek a deeper meaning to life? Control ,who is in control? No, no who is really in control? I will not add more because with these ideas, it has opened the mind . Feel free to continue .Do you think big business, politicians are in control?
....Shabat Shalom!

(It means “have a peaceful Sabbath”. The Sabbath in Judaism, which falls on Saturdays, is a day of genuine rest and prayer, involving no work or business transactions.) The Sabbath begins at nightfall on Friday and lasts until nightfall on Saturday. In practical terms the Sabbath starts a few minutes before sunset on Friday and runs until an hour after sunset on Saturday, so it lasts about 25 hours.

[Supersub6]

".......Does that person that has felt suffering and hardship, ask of himself, why me? Does he then start to find deeper answers to life? Would he ask those basic questions ? Would he seek a deeper meaning to life? Control ,who is in control? No, no who is really in control? I will not add more because with these ideas, it has opened the mind . Feel free to continue .Do you think big business, politicians are in control?
....Shabat Shalom!"

You can ask all the questions you want, however, from my experience, the majority of those friends who have been seeking the meaning of life have lost themselves in the process, are still seeking and missing out on all that life has to offer, whether that be good or bad.
Mind you, their constant endeavours save my having to worry about anything because, only too readily, they will pass on their findings -----when they find them!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I heard from my "inside source" today from Turf Moor, if we want to watch the Clarets "Live", it looks increasingly likely we will need a vax certificate to gain entry into all grounds.

That will be me done then.

[Norder]

I heard from my "inside source" today from Turf Moor, if we want to watch the Clarets "Live", it looks increasingly likely we will need a vax certificate to gain entry into all grounds.

That will be me done then.

can't be right BT....this Vax (in name only) does nothing but boost the immune system, and just like any bug, (this is being prolonged) can still catch it and shed it, as it made, so they tell us...to build a quick immune response in those with weakened/compomised immune systems - that is it....So - for the overwhelming majority, what difference not having it, Simple - there isn't any...and anyway, how could they make Rules based on an unlicensed experiment with effects (admitted by pharmas) as yet unknown...thats been forced through under emergency powers. They can't - and if they try it....it unjust - and we know where that ends up - so damn the slopsucking Nazis.

[sinkov]

I heard from my "inside source" today from Turf Moor, if we want to watch the Clarets "Live", it looks increasingly likely we will need a vax certificate to gain entry into all grounds.

That will be me done then.

Me too BT, I'll likely as not have a Vax Certificate, but any club that demands I produce it before letting me in, won't be getting any of my money.

[Balanbam00]

Yes sub, life is a mystery. But some of those friends must have taken the wrong path, how could they loose themselves? There must be some part of the mind that tells you to listen to logic and reason ,and that those answers, from deep questioning can never be found, because they are beyond the mind. Yet would you listen or believe in their constant endeavours, I am sure you would not, as you look upon them as having lost their way. Then which path have they taken? Religion? Religions are full of dogma!
From time to time, during one crisis or another, various religious leaders come on one platform and vow to take a united stand and work amicably. By this show the public gets befooled. Their words sound good but ultimately the religions are a very dangerous rallying point for human society.
For example, some Muslims term Jews as pigs, and vice versa. The more fanatic Christians think all non-Christians are heretics and vile - fit for hell fire. Every religion is antagonistic towards the other religions. They each preach unity within their own religion - and hatred without. In day to day living, blind adherents of a particular religion harbour enmity towards the followers of other religions.

If we do not find a meaning, then life's purpose can not be found? Then as life passes by, our minds become weaker and then would it be true that at that stage to say, it's almost impossible to ever find it and then, what would I care ? If we could conclude that God does not exist ,then nothing more to add. But if we did infer that 'something' call it what you will does exist. Then ask ''why did (lets just call it God ,for simplicity), 'Why did God create this Universe?' Sorry to go deep into things but we are in some interesting times. The destruction of Capitalism for starters! So ''We are in the hands of politicians'' yes, but not really. Upstairs is!

[kritichris]

Well said army, it's the extra deaths that give the picture, flu, corona, it doesn't matter, they died and the whole situation has been badly managed, a lot of people have died unnecessarily.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Meanwhile the lockdown continues, operations are cancelled, v!tal treatments are withheld, businesses are closing, the right to protest is banned, joblessness is on the rise, enforced vaccinations through coercion and control, billionaires are getting richer, benefits are being cut for the needy, food banks without food, mental illness seeing an exponential increase, police running amok issuing £10,000 fines, justice system in suspension and still the Tories hold a 12% lead in the polls.

Conclusion: The majority of the UK population are Braindead

[sinkov]

Army, I don't want Covid, I've done my utmost in the last 12 months to avoid catching it, I know someone who caught it in hospital and died, it's a nasty virus, Long Covid is a serious problem we don't know much about yet. I give you all of that, but after looking at and studying the stats on a daily basis for the last 12 months, I dispute that Lockdown is the answer, it isn't, and neither is mask wearing.

That's all I'm saying mate, Covid is a problem, masks and lockdowns are not the solution, and I despise a government, opposition and media that lies, manipulates the stats, and says they are.