Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

The crux of it for me. Is the financial and political elites, have pushed the continent down an immigration alley that has lost all control. They never asked to do this and refuse to listen to ever growing objections by native populations. The Eastern bloc countries have said, they will preserve their cultures at all costs and reject any part of it. Folks forget, they were stipped of their culture by the CCCP and politically hammered. They haven't forgotten.

Multicultualism only works, if amy immigrants want and try to adapt to places they settle. Not all of them are.
GP mentions the eastern bloc, as comparisons of Nazi Germany, yet in Amsterdam, you saw that very thing the other night. Gangs out on Jew hunts and stopping people demanding to see their "papers".
If this is the norm, what happens when these populations grow?

Conscription in Israel will mean that many of the Macabbi fans will have been, or still are, IDF or reservists. They pulled Palestinian flags off houses and burned them, they attacked a Muslim taxi driver and wrecked his car, they were chanting about Gaza's destruction. Their actions were met by retaliation. That led to antisemitism being described by the Mayor of Amsterdam, the Prime Minister, Netanyahu and others. I don't condone what happened nor do I condone what was the catalyst to it.

There's an old adage of "if you play with fire, expect to get burned".

[Andy_Faber]

Conscription in Israel will mean that many of the Macabbi fans will have been, or still are, IDF or reservists. They pulled Palestinian flags off houses and burned them, they attacked a Muslim taxi driver and wrecked his car, they were chanting about Gaza's destruction. Their actions were met by retaliation. That led to antisemitism being described by the Mayor of Amsterdam, the Prime Minister, Netanyahu and others. I don't condone what happened nor do I condone what was the catalyst to it.

There's an old adage of "if you play with fire, expect to get burned".

Any proof about the reservist thing? The only reference I can find is on known conspiracy theory websites like Quora

[MadAmster]

The latest "news". The woman freelancer who filmed the first incident on the Thursday (Flags and taxi incidents were Wednesday) put the video up on her twitter, saying that the perpetrators were the Macabbi fans. That was picked up by an American who posted the video up citing the Macabbi fans as the victims. She contacted him and asked for a rectification that never arrived. A lot of news services took the American's version and posted that as the facts. She got in touch with several news services asking them to "get it right". Only one did. Source: an interview with the woman herself on an RTL4 talk show.

The video actually showed it was Macabbi fans doing the attacking. Around the same time, a young YouTuber took and posted video. It showed Macabbi fans dismantling pallets and using the wood as weapons chasing locals.

None of this excuses the reaction from what are now being described as "people with a migration background, mainly Moroccan".

Two wrongs don't make a right or even a one sided right. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Violence begat violence. Both need condemning in the strongest possible terms.

[Andy_Faber]

The latest "news". The woman freelancer who filmed the first incident on the Thursday (Flags and taxi incidents were Wednesday) put the video up on her twitter, saying that the perpetrators were the Macabbi fans. That was picked up by an American who posted the video up citing the Macabbi fans as the victims. She contacted him and asked for a rectification that never arrived. A lot of news services took the American's version and posted that as the facts. She got in touch with several news services asking them to "get it right". Only one did. Source: an interview with the woman herself on an RTL4 talk show.

The video actually showed it was Macabbi fans doing the attacking. Around the same time, a young YouTuber took and posted video. It showed Macabbi fans dismantling pallets and using the wood as weapons chasing locals.

None of this excuses the reaction from what are now being described as "people with a migration background, mainly Moroccan".

Two wrongs don't make a right or even a one sided right. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Violence begat violence. Both need condemning in the strongest possible terms.

No argument there. IMO two inflexible, intolerant belief systems in conflict on the neutral ground of a flexible, tolerant one

[Ramshank72]

The latest "news". The woman freelancer who filmed the first incident on the Thursday (Flags and taxi incidents were Wednesday) put the video up on her twitter, saying that the perpetrators were the Macabbi fans. That was picked up by an American who posted the video up citing the Macabbi fans as the victims. She contacted him and asked for a rectification that never arrived. A lot of news services took the American's version and posted that as the facts. She got in touch with several news services asking them to "get it right". Only one did. Source: an interview with the woman herself on an RTL4 talk show.

The video actually showed it was Macabbi fans doing the attacking. Around the same time, a young YouTuber took and posted video. It showed Macabbi fans dismantling pallets and using the wood as weapons chasing locals.

None of this excuses the reaction from what are now being described as "people with a migration background, mainly Moroccan".

Two wrongs don't make a right or even a one sided right. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Violence begat violence. Both need condemning in the strongest possible terms.

Sadly, "condemning" is just lip service to local media, and makes no material difference to perpetuators or victims. I always think when politicians are asked to condemn incidents, they are having their intelligence insulted. If it were me, I'd be responding* with, "Yes, of course I think that they shouldn't commit that crime, you stupid ****ing idiot."





*My political career may not be calling any time soon!

[Andy_Faber]

Sadly, "condemning" is just lip service to local media, and makes no material difference to perpetuators or victims. I always think when politicians are asked to condemn incidents, they are having their intelligence insulted. If it were me, I'd be responding* with, "Yes, of course I think that they shouldn't commit that crime, you stupid ****ing idiot."





*My political career may not be calling any time soon!

It'd be great TV though

[Geoff Parkstone]

I don't know rA. I'm puzzled

[ramAnag]

I don't know rA. I'm puzzled

Lol…you and I both.

[Andy_Faber]

I don't know rA. I'm puzzled

See what you did there

[Trickytreesreds]

Here's one for MA, seeing as he was defending Starmers early release fiasco. Contrary to his beliefs, violent offenders are being released and the whole system is falling apart. Its about as organised as his smash the gangs hot air.

This clown couldn't run a bath

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...go/ar-AA1tRXG2