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Thread: Every day the vaccine rolls out

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    I mentioned this earlier but I think the Tories are now going for herd immunity in England. They actually want the virus to spread around, it's the only conclusion I can land on from the latest policy decisions. It may well be right but, as you say, it is increasing the risk of problematic new variants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I mentioned this earlier but I think the Tories are now going for herd immunity in England. They actually want the virus to spread around, it's the only conclusion I can land on from the latest policy decisions. It may well be right but, as you say, it is increasing the risk of problematic new variants.
    The delta seems very keen to infect anyone within a few meter radius. If england get to the final BoJo will get his wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I mentioned this earlier but I think the Tories are now going for herd immunity in England. They actually want the virus to spread around, it's the only conclusion I can land on from the latest policy decisions. It may well be right but, as you say, it is increasing the risk of problematic new variants.
    I was staggered to hear the new English health secretary saying there will be 100,000 cases a day when they lift restrictions,he was as laid back as Tam when he said it tae.

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    The projection from
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    that infections could surge to a record 100,000 a day in a few weeks, as all social distancing and mask-wearing regulations are removed, is especially terrifying for those whose immune systems are impaired or are clinically vulnerable in…
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    other ways. There are millions of these frail people. For those whose immune systems are compromised or suppressed, the efficacy of vaccines is much reduced. For others among the frail, any residual risk of becoming infected is too great, because for…
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    them it is literally a matter of life or death. So when you hear politicians and others talking about the important freedom to choose NOT to wear a mask and NOT to keep a respectful distance from others, note that their freedom is felt as oppression by those who…
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    through no fault of their own are more at risk from this awful disease. I often think about how my late wife, Siân Busby, would have felt about how Covid-19 has turned so many frail people into second class citizens, unable to be in the world properly. Her immune…
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    system was compromised for years by her repeated chemotherapy. That was hard enough. How she would have felt when hearing and seeing morons bang on about what a terrible thing it is to wear a mask or keep a few feet away from strangers, I shudder to think. The…
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    prime minister’s freedom day is day of sheer dread for far too many people.

  5. #1755
    i get what you're all saying about keeping controls in place incase of new variants, but when does it stop? does it ever stop? based on the comments here it seems to me most would be happy to wear these masks forever, incase of new variants.

    Can we not just continue to vax everyone and learn to live with this like the flu?

    How come there was none of these variants when till we started getting vaccinated? Theres a new one every week ffs

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    all viruses mutate over time mostly with very little change but as can be seen they mutate in a way that benefits it. ie to survive and thrive

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    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    i get what you're all saying about keeping controls in place incase of new variants, but when does it stop? does it ever stop? based on the comments here it seems to me most would be happy to wear these masks forever, incase of new variants.

    Can we not just continue to vax everyone and learn to live with this like the flu?

    How come there was none of these variants when till we started getting vaccinated? Theres a new one every week ffs
    I'm sure the Cockney strain started doing the rounds before the vaccine.It was that Barsteward that phucked up Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedboy1971 View Post
    all viruses mutate over time mostly with very little change but as can be seen they mutate in a way that benefits it. ie to survive and thrive
    They are expecting problems with the flu this winter because they havnie got a clue what its gonna be with so little of it about last year because we all had masks on or were in the hoose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    They are expecting problems with the flu this winter because they havnie got a clue what its gonna be with so little of it about last year because we all had masks on or were in the hoose.
    yeah i read that and the concern is the flu vax is largely a prediction based process now its going to be a bit of that and guess work due to low levels

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    Looks like we might be over the worst of it, although it does take a while for the curve to come right down

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