Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

The problem for me is, while he will use the fact he's not actually said what as a defence, what it does do is have people reaching for x.com etc searching for the said rumours and spreading them.

We all know the dangers of unsubstantiated rumours online.

Totally agree, and he deserves to be called out as a **** stirrer if the rumours are false. What if they aren't? What is he then, and what are the people who are covering up?

[Trickytreesreds]

Totally agree, and he deserves to be called out as a **** stirrer if the rumours are false. What if they aren't? What is he then, and what are the people who are covering up?

What if the rumours are true, what will people do then?
As I understand it, the rumours involve Rwanda atrocities , brought over by an ex PM and a certain person defending his deportation.

This could be a government bring down if true.

Or Farage has just ended his political career. He has certainly been gagged in parliament. He has stated that, the trial date, is being bounced around, to put it back as far as possible, by certain people.

Oh the drama.

Perhaps re open the locked thread soon?

[ramAnag]

GBNews says things because it is the home of conspiracy theorists and the plaything of a British billionaire and Dubai based investment group. Go figure.
OFCOM has voiced many concerns about them and it’s certainly not my ‘job’ to add to them, it is however something I will continue to do, if that’s alright with you, and, for that matter, even if it isn’t.

[Trickytreesreds]

GBNews says things because it is the home of conspiracy theorists and the plaything of a British billionaire and Dubai based investment group. Go figure.
OFCOM has voiced many concerns about them and it’s certainly not my ‘job’ to add to them, it is however something I will continue to do, if that’s alright with you, and, for that matter, even if it isn’t.

Sorry, but reading a paper that list columists as Owen Jones and Ash Sokar among its ranks, doesn't give you the moral high ground on that one.

[ramAnag]

Sorry, but reading a paper that list columists as Owen Jones and Ash Sokar among its ranks, doesn't give you the moral high ground on that one.

Lol, oh please! Says the man who’s favourite TV channel gives us, off the top of my head, Farage, Eamon Holmes, Michelle Dewberry, Rees Mogg, Andrew Pierce, Neil Oliver, Arlene Foster, Michael Portillo, Lee Anderson and Richard Tice.

No agenda, or competence, there then. It’s where failed politicians and broadcasters go to die. I mean, even Andrew Neil left in despair.

G’night.

[Trickytreesreds]

Lol, oh please! Says the man who’s favourite TV channel gives us, off the top of my head, Farage, Eamon Holmes, Michelle Dewberry, Rees Mogg, Andrew Pierce, Neil Oliver, Arlene Foster, Michael Portillo, Lee Anderson and Richard Tice.

No agenda, or competence, there then. It’s where failed politicians and broadcasters go to die. I mean, even Andrew Neil left in despair.

G’night.

oh you mean people with a politocal track record, or careers in tv? over a radical lgbtq ranter who has never had a job to mention in his life and a race baiting part time communist who sees racism as the root cause of everything?
You win that one RA

[ramAnag]

oh you mean people with a politocal track record, or careers in tv? over a radical lgbtq ranter who has never had a job to mention in his life and a race baiting part time communist who sees racism as the root cause of everything?
You win that one RA

Let’s think…no as I suspect you know, I don’t mean that at all. Anyway I’m glad you enjoy it so much…gives you something to do and someone has to watch it I suppose.
Tbh I know nothing about Ash Sarkar (except apparently how to spell her surname) but I suspect my generally favoured news sources (BBC, Independent and Guardian) carry rather more credibility than the collection of wannabes, has beens and conspiracy theorists from GBeebies who seem to so delight you by simply reflecting back your own misguided opinions.
All about perspective really. I’ll stick with mine and not bother replying further on this particular topic.

[Trickytreesreds]

So Biden, in a last act of controversy, has released restrictions on the Ukraine using US long range weapons inside Russia. Pressure is now on Starmer.

Is this the democrats reacting to Russia, or stoking the fire on Trumps regime as it vacates the whitehouse.
Troubled waters ahead.

[MadAmster]

So Biden, in a last act of controversy, has released restrictions on the Ukraine using US long range weapons inside Russia. Pressure is now on Starmer.

Is this the democrats reacting to Russia, or stoking the fire on Trumps regime as it vacates the whitehouse.
Troubled waters ahead.

To combat the the thousands of North Korean combatants sent by Kim Jong-Un to help fight the Ukranians. Russia is involving foreign combatants. Ukraine, thus far, hasn't except for a handful of mercenary volunteers. In order to operate the long range rockets, they need US operatives to control them. Russia expands the boundary of combatants, US responds. It seems you may have missed the appearance of several thousand North Korean troops on Ukraine's border.

It isn't beyond the bounds of possibility Biden is bluffing Putin, maybe even having agreed to such a move with Trump, into sending the Koreans back home. Putin isn't particularly popular and the possibility of having Ukraine attack and destroy military airfields and possibly many Russian military personnel would make him even less popular.

One thing I do agree with you on is that there will now be more pressure on Starmer to allow Ukraine to use UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles deep inside Russia.

Putin shouldn't, but will, complain about Ukraine being allowed full use of the US ATACM missiles or, if permitted, UK Storm Shadow missiles. He started the proliferation by bringing in Korean troops and their weapons. Aint karma a bitch.

The million dollar question here is, at what point, if at all, does Putin think the UK/US/EU has crossed a red line and declare war?

[Trickytreesreds]

To combat the the thousands of North Korean combatants sent by Kim Jong-Un to help fight the Ukranians. Russia is involving foreign combatants. Ukraine, thus far, hasn't except for a handful of mercenary volunteers. In order to operate the long range rockets, they need US operatives to control them. Russia expands the boundary of combatants, US responds. It seems you may have missed the appearance of several thousand North Korean troops on Ukraine's border.

It isn't beyond the bounds of possibility Biden is bluffing Putin, maybe even having agreed to such a move with Trump, into sending the Koreans back home. Putin isn't particularly popular and the possibility of having Ukraine attack and destroy military airfields and possibly many Russian military personnel would make him even less popular.

One thing I do agree with you on is that there will now be more pressure on Starmer to allow Ukraine to use UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles deep inside Russia.

Putin shouldn't, but will, complain about Ukraine being allowed full use of the US ATACM missiles or, if permitted, UK Storm Shadow missiles. He started the proliferation by bringing in Korean troops and their weapons. Aint karma a bitch.

The million dollar question here is, at what point, if at all, does Putin think the UK/US/EU has crossed a red line and declare war?

Unanswered, only by Putin himself. That question comes on the table, the closer Putin comes to losing. If he loses, he will be ousted and done away with. What does he have to lose?