O/T The meaningful vote.

[animallittle3]

It was you whom asked the question and Animal gave a answer but i think you knew that. But 10 referendums is not a answer i asociate with Animal in conversation he usually puts better facts down than that.


I'll ask you a question "what will you gain by leaving the E.U."

Not becoming part of a federal europe , under one flag , one anthem , army and governed by people who seem to have zero respect for democracy .

[Exiletyke]

Not becoming part of a federal europe , under one flag , one anthem , army and governed by people who seem to have zero respect for democracy .

Agree except regarding anthem I think I would prefer almost anything in place of our National dirge
Cwm Rhondda [Bread Of Heaven] & Flower of Scotland are far more inspiring

[animallittle3]

Since when was we never in control.

Since Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 and Brown the Lisbon Treaty in 2007 colliers .

[upthecolliers]

Since Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 and Brown the Lisbon Treaty in 2007 colliers .

don't think so, we have border control or do we just walk through the airports at will.
The markets set the price of the pound in relation to its value against the Doller and Euro not the EU if your on about that money that was wrote on the side of a bus that money is for bussiness to trade in a customs free envionment.
I keep asking this question what laws as the EU inflicted on us that you don,t like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWHg2mdUgE

[Exiletyke]

don't think so, we have border control or do we just walk through the airports at will.
The markets set the price of the pound in relation to its value against the Doller and Euro not the EU if your on about that money that was wrote on the side of a bus that money is for bussiness to trade in a customs free envionment.
I keep asking this question what laws as the EU inflicted on us that you don,t like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWHg2mdUgE

If you are an EU citizen with an EU passport then yes you can, on showing your passport providing there are no impediments

[upthecolliers]

heres another one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJ2dLVBch4

[animallittle3]

don't think so, we have border control or do we just walk through the airports at will.
The markets set the price of the pound in relation to its value against the Doller and Euro not the EU if your on about that money that was wrote on the side of a bus that money is for bussiness to trade in a customs free envionment.
I keep asking this question what laws as the EU inflicted on us that you don,t like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xWHg2mdUgE

Mr C if you look back over the course of this thread I've identified several areas of the EU that resulted in the way I voted .

It's not just about rules as you put it is it ?

It's as much to do with policy of the EU , their lack of democracy in certain areas and the way they seem to be able to somehow gain control of our country without any of us knowing what'really going on .


The dream of the Junkers , Shulz and Barnier who was instrumental in the creation of the single market and four freedoms is a federal europe run by them almost entirely and our own governments reduced to nothing more than a Parish Council .

That is their end game , that's not what I want to see .

I will sincerely break ranks with the Labour Party over this if they go for another referendum having had the opportunity to rid ourselves of the EU club .

[Exiletyke]

Mr C if you look back over the course of this thread I've identified several areas of the EU that resulted in the way I voted .

It's not just about rules as you put it is it ?

It's as much to do with policy of the EU , their lack of democracy in certain areas and the way they seem to be able to somehow gain control of our country without any of us knowing what'really going on .


The dream of the Junkers , Shulz and Barnier who was instrumental in the creation of the single market and four freedoms is a federal europe run by them almost entirely and our own governments reduced to nothing more than a Parish Council .

That is their end game , that's not what I want to see .

I will sincerely break ranks with the Labour Party over this if they go for another referendum having had the opportunity to rid ourselves of the EU club .

In 2016 Barnier is on record as saying " I will have succeeded in my task if the deal is so hard on the British that they would prefer staying in the European Union"

[upthecolliers]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-I25jIvv-8&t=119s

[upthecolliers]

Try again

https://www.youtube,com/watch?v=B-125jIvv-8&t=119s