OT. Schools...normality and Coronavirus.

[ramAnag]

From a practical view, this has to be the case. Different schools have different conditions, my children's and mine old school was massive in every way for a primary school. The classrooms are very big and could comfortably accommodate 15 socially distanced pupils and also has plenty of other classrooms to allow for smaller numbers.

Not all schools are in this position however and the individual schools will need to do their own risk assessments as to what is relatively safe, just like they do for all school trips.

Couldn’t agree more.

[Ram59]

I think you're both right, I've seen that the average age is around 60 on more than one occasion, yet you look the individual age groups and it appears much higher.

[Trickytreesreds]

I think you're both right, I've seen that the average age is around 60 on more than one occasion, yet you look the individual age groups and it appears much higher.

NHS fugures of deaths in hospital. I think that makes it clear it is a pensioners nightmare not a late fifties average killer.

Gender
Age group Female Male Unknown gender Total
Total 9,705 15,374 1 25,080

0 - 19 yrs 6 8 0 14
20 - 39 79 103 0 182
40 - 59 660 1,334 0 1,994
60 - 79 3,273 6,393 0 9,666
80+ 5,687 7,536 1 13,224
Unknown age 0 0 0

[ramAnag]

NHS fugures of deaths in hospital. I think that makes it clear it is a pensioners nightmare not a late fifties average killer.

Gender
Age group Female Male Unknown gender Total
Total 9,705 15,374 1 25,080

0 - 19 yrs 6 8 0 14
20 - 39 79 103 0 182
40 - 59 660 1,334 0 1,994
60 - 79 3,273 6,393 0 9,666
80+ 5,687 7,536 1 13,224
Unknown age 0 0 0

I think you’ve just made the case for accountants, Tricky.

That’s about as clear as a Priti Patel explanation, but I agree...the over sixties are most at risk, although having age groups differentiated by almost twenty years is next to useless.

Of greater concern are some of the graphs relating to the decrease in cases of Covid-19 according to different countries. We really aren’t coming out of that very well even compared with Italy and Spain.

[Trickytreesreds]

I think you’ve just made the case for accountants, Tricky.

That’s about as clear as a Priti Patel explanation, but I agree...the over sixties are most at risk, although having age groups differentiated by almost twenty years is next to useless.

Of greater concern are some of the graphs relating to the decrease in cases of Covid-19 according to different countries. We really aren’t coming out of that very well even compared with Italy and Spain.

Probably not RA.
I have been looking at figures from quite a few countries.
Italy average death age is 78, (over 99% of them over 60)
USA is 75

It definitely isn't late 50's but I'm not an accountant.

I think Swale has said before, the virus is really the final nail for lots with current ailments.
It isn't a plague like the black death, which didn't give a **** how old you was.
The older you are, the more fragile you are.

My arithmatic is fine, last time I was in Alvaston, it was till 6 fingers per hand.

[Trickytreesreds]

Would he be better off in Norfolk than Surrey? Hard to say, he might be more exposed to the virus by his behaviour if he was with his mates and socialising more, but he has plenty of mates at home here and isnt exposing himself.

I certainly hope he isn't exposing himself. Don't you lot have enough shame, fiddling sheep?

[Trickytreesreds]

In the context of "show me the money", here's two family differences.

My cousins husband, works in a bread factory. As such, he has had to carry on working and played the key worker card a lot.
He read that France was giving its all its key workers a £1500 bonus( not true fully, it was for those on the front line and working excessive hours). As such he has been ranting and raving that the Tories have robbed him and we treat our workers like ****.

Key relative number 2. My sisters husband at RR.
Been furloughed, now knows 9000 workers to go and is crapping himself how he's going to pay the bills.
He's willing to go back for a massive pay cut.

It seems all this "we all need to come together " spirit, is in the eye of the beholder and about as dog eat dog as you can get.
Economy and jobs? Nah, what's in it for me seems to be shining through in some quarters.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I don't doubt that teachers are an important part of society, and not in the obvious way of teaching. They are surrogate parents in a society where many families now have two working parents as a financial necessity or preference. Take your pick which.

I just hope that the teaching profession don't get disillusioned with that role, which probably isn't what many of them will have signed up for.

[ramAnag]

I don't doubt that teachers are an important part of society, and not in the obvious way of teaching. They are surrogate parents in a society where many families now have two working parents as a financial necessity or preference. Take your pick which.

I just hope that the teaching profession don't get disillusioned with that role, which probably isn't what many of them will have signed up for.

Difficult to see how it’s not important in ‘the most obvious way of teaching’.

In addition I’m glad you now recognise they also provide a child minding facility which enables the nation to work.

They are only surrogate parents where the natural parents - very easy to become, rather harder to be good at - are inadequate or absent.

Hopefully, as was suggested much earlier in this crisis, there will be some re-evaluation of how society values various occupations once the pandemic is over, and I say that just as much about ‘bin men’ and shop workers as about teachers and medical staff.
Not so sure about the ‘bean counters’ though.

[Geoff Parkstone]

The childminder I used for many years always provided food, much to my children's annoyance. The food was far from great but most of the kids tolerated it, although it wasnt great.