OT Azeem Rafiq inquiry

[millertop]

Very witty,

Im the main culprit? I didn't join the thread till page 8 I believe. It had long since degenerated since then but thanks for the plug for the hospice all the same.

Love and kisses to you and my fan club on here as always boys xxx Unfortunately for you lot there are millions nay billions think on similar lines to me out there in the world and thank the lord for that!. Football message boards are notoriously right wing its the nature of the beast. Never mind.

Try having an opinion first before you start your first comment having a go at posters

Your no victim

[Yak]

Didn’t want to be falling out with anyone.
Just didn’t like again certain comments.
I didn’t like BOTN posting about me and I’ve told him so.
I’m certainly no god 🤦🏻*♂️
I rarely post on here and it will be a while till I do again.
Merry Christmas 👍🏻

[gm_gm]

I see the new head of marketing a YCCC is a bit old school

[KerrAvon]

Here's my thoughts:

Racism can never be acceptable and should be opposed wherever it manifests itself. That being said, I think that there is a degree of innate racism in all of us - or at least an innate distrust of 'different' that manifests itself as racism or any number of other 'isms'.

Like everyone else posting on here, I don't know what actually happened at Yorkshire. I've heard snippets from various people in news articles and that's it. From my experience of life and because it seems inherently unlkely that a county cricket club would become a hot bed of neo-nazism, my suspicion is that there has been a lot of very poorly judged 'banter' in which the people making comments have either failed to consider or have disregarded the impact of their words and actions upon their taeget. That is often the nature of 'banter'. The point is that simply because comments are made in jest or half-jest does not mean that they will be recieved in that way.

If Azeen Rafiq has been treated badly then he is right to call it out and deserves to be taken seriously and the apparent culture at Yorkshire needs to be challenged over it.

The probem is with the likes of this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59344022 I'm afraid the world really has gone mad when this becomes a front page story. 'Blackface' in entertainment in the past was disrepsectful and demeaning and deserves to have become a thing of history, but seriously? This looks like it was a private fancy dress party. Where is the harm - either intended or actual - other than to people who are looking for reasons to be offended?

When it comes to most prejudices, this country has come on in leaps and bounds in my lifetime, but as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, the current obsession with 'identity politics' is positively harmful and risks setting us all back.

[howdydoo]

100%

If you check the interview here with Matthew Syed about 2:45 in.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/sho...337/2021-11-17

[rolymiller]

Come on guys don't want any one packing in on here. Agree to disagree and move on. There is no one here I wunt share a friendly chin wag with in reality but not a pint cos I'm a tight get!

[ragingpup]

Here's my thoughts:

Racism can never be acceptable and should be opposed wherever it manifests itself. That being said, I think that there is a degree of innate racism in all of us - or at least an innate distrust of 'different' that manifests itself as racism or any number of other 'isms'.

Like everyone else posting on here, I don't know what actually happened at Yorkshire. I've heard snippets from various people in news articles and that's it. From my experience of life and because it seems inherently unlkely that a county cricket club would become a hot bed of neo-nazism, my suspicion is that there has been a lot of very poorly judged 'banter' in which the people making comments have either failed to consider or have disregarded the impact of their words and actions upon their taeget. That is often the nature of 'banter'. The point is that simply because comments are made in jest or half-jest does not mean that they will be recieved in that way.

If Azeen Rafiq has been treated badly then he is right to call it out and deserves to be taken seriously and the apparent culture at Yorkshire needs to be challenged over it.

The probem is with the likes of this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59344022 I'm afraid the world really has gone mad when this becomes a front page story. 'Blackface' in entertainment in the past was disrepsectful and demeaning and deserves to have become a thing of history, but seriously? This looks like it was a private fancy dress party. Where is the harm - either intended or actual - other than to people who are looking for reasons to be offended?

When it comes to most prejudices, this country has come on in leaps and bounds in my lifetime, but as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, the current obsession with 'identity politics' is positively harmful and risks setting us all back.

Good post Kerr. Pretty much agree with all of the points.

Clearly the selection of the news stories from media outlets is a factor here - as you say why on earth did this historic blackface story ever make it onto the headlines? I think maybe we're all a bit complicit on this: the lefties clicking to see the latest un-pc 'outrage', the rightsters clicking to add to their outrage about how woke we've all become. As you know, I'm of the left and know many lefties but tbh I don't know anyone who would be in the least bit bothered by this story - so why is it chosen and why are so many people clicking on it to further encourage the selection of such stories! We have to question the choices from media outlets but a good hard look at ourselves wouldn't go amiss.

[great_fire]

If he suffered abuse at Yorkshire then why did he go back there?

It doesn't make any sense.

[CAMiller]

If he suffered abuse at Yorkshire then why did he go back there?

It doesn't make any sense.

As I posted #10

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

If he suffered abuse at Yorkshire then why did he go back there?

It doesn't make any sense.

It does if you’re chasing a compensation payment

I think what surprised him was Yorkshire CCC club response, in not folding and paying compo for a quieter outcome.

By then though he was in too deep and didn’t fancy backing out and getting nothing