Keir Starmer

[Bojangles9]

Starmer has been incredibly naive/dumb since coming into office.
I don't think anyone seriously expected his mob to be anything other than a cabal of free marketeer, morally bereft neo-cons like the last four**** years.
Any notion of a "proper" Labour party has long since sailed into the sunset, thanks to the electorate within Perfidious Albion.
But to get the basic optics so horrendously wrong, seeming to be going down the justification route of "well, it's nothing like as bad, or as much, as the last lot were troughing", is mind blowing.
The far right media are under orders to go on full blown attack.
How any politician could not see this coming is astonishing.

Aye who would have foreseen their years of attacking the Tories for cronyism and abusing their privileges opening them up to the exact same scrutiny? FFS they know it’s worse for them as well being up against a majorly right wing press.

Like you I’m dumbfounded about the optics of well almost everything they’ve done so far.

They are not dumb but naive I feel is giving them too much credit. They just can’t help themselves.

And DeeDon makes a very good point - what’s this bugger Lord Alli getting out of it?

I despise the Tories but feck me we’re going to have to hope they get their house in order to hold this lot to account. Bloody hell can’t believe I’m writing that.

[57vintage]

Where I work they are still deemed as the 'commie party'.

I sh*t you not.

It’s fúcking ridiculous the way that Diet Labour (although it’s more starvation level), the Greens, the SNP, and anything bill-posted or self-identified with the meaningless, wan, harmless, scared-to-say-socialist “progressive” label are referred to as “hard left”, or “Marxist”, or “Communist”. Hop in the TARDIS with me and spend a 1977 evening with me in the Prince of Wales, Aberdeen (a boozer, not a royalist perversion), and I’ll show you “hard left Marxists” with the knowledge and muscle to persuade.

Since 2017’s General Election, when I left a polling station with my head held high, the whole system, UK-wide, has evolved into the crock of steaming poop that it is. I’m an old man, and fundamentally, it’s going to get no better in my lifetime.

Ach.

[Mason89]

I despise the Tories but feck me we’re going to have to hope they get their house in order to hold this lot to account. Bloody hell can’t believe I’m writing that.

Judging by the quality of their leadership candidates, that isn’t happening any time soon.

[InversneckieDob]

Where I work they are still deemed as the 'commie party'.

I sh*t you not.

You hear 'Muricans referring to the Democrats as "Marxists" and "Socialists".
Beggars belief.

[Donanddusted]

You hear 'Muricans referring to the Democrats as "Marxists" and "Socialists".
Beggars belief.

Well...., a good proportion of them think Donald Trump is a great fit for president.

Most Americans don't know sh1t.

[Mason89]

Pumping Jenny Chapman I heard

[TheDeeDon]

Pumping Jenny Chapman I heard

I doesn't look as though he has it in him.

[57vintage]

Jenny Chapman

Rules…WYOWYN? etc

[swaddon2]

Rules…WYOWYN? etc

Not wanting to sound like a s*xist pig, but compared to Starmer's wife, she's nae all that.

[Jupiter]

What's with all the rumours about him having a big secret?