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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    I've just read this article. It really feels like there's been a serious case premature sh!t the beddery on this one.
    Early study of data in Scotland is demonstrating that risk of hospitilisation with Omicron is 70% less than that of Delta. Would seem to back up that found in South Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    Pretty much exactly what I was saying earlier. Vaccinating the unvaccinated will get us out of this quicker than continually boosting our own.

    "WHO says vaccine booster programs will prolong Covid crisis: 'No country can boost its way out of the pandemic"

    https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject....-pandemic.html
    Spot on, apart from the fact that vaccinated people can still get infected and pass the virus on.

    Oh, and that vaccine immunity wanes after 6 months or so, meaning you need continuous boosters to keep that kind of immunity up.

    What will get us out of this is growing a set of balls and realising that you can’t mitigate - or run away from - every risk.

    We’ve spent billions of pounds, millions of life years on mitigating or hiding from covid, this is as low risk as it gets. It’s time to get on with life.
    Last edited by VanDerHoorn; 23-12-2021 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDerHoorn View Post
    Spot on, apart from the fact that vaccinated people can still get infected and pass the virus on.

    Oh, and that vaccine immunity wanes after 6 months or so, meaning you need continuous boosters to keep that kind of immunity up.

    What will get us out of this is growing a set of balls and realising that you can’t mitigate - or run away from - every risk.

    We’ve spent billions of pounds, millions of life years on mitigating or hiding from covid, this is as low risk as it gets. It’s time to get on with life.
    Well said sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDerHoorn View Post
    It’s time to get on with life.
    Unless it's not, by which I mean the virus could kill you.

    But, your point is a good one and it's something I agree with. I think things need to change in order to cope with the potential for yearly waves of this, whatever that may be. Going on as we are is just not feasible long term, IMHO.
    Last edited by TerryTheTerror; 23-12-2021 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Unless it's not, by which I mean the virus could kill you.

    But, your point is a good one and it's something I agree with. I think things need to change in order to cope with the potential for yearly waves of this, whatever that may be. Going on as we are is just not feasible long term, IMHO.
    Death is a part of life, which is the part I think we have forgotten,

    The government seems to be hell bent on keeping covid-related hospital admissions below 3000 (U.K. wide). For that they are destroying lives and livelihoods.

    Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.
    Last edited by VanDerHoorn; 23-12-2021 at 09:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDerHoorn View Post
    Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.
    They probably could have done that if they hadn't kicked a ton of the nurses out of the country to appease the racists

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackRowArab View Post
    They probably could have done that if they hadn't kicked a ton of the nurses out of the country to appease the racists
    And tried to prevent so many leaving the NHS over the last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDerHoorn View Post
    Death is a part of life, which is the part I think we have forgotten,

    The government seems to be hell bent on keeping covid-related hospital admissions below 3000 (U.K. wide). For that they are destroying lives and livelihoods.

    Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.
    But there are 8008 in hospital uk wide as reported yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDerHoorn View Post
    Why not just increase covid bed capacity to 6000 or 9000? Surely that would be more sensible, it’s not like we haven’t had time to do that.
    Totally agree. If this visit increases reliance on the NHS at winter then the capacity needs to be there to cope with whatever it needs to be.

    But, are we all prepared to pay higher taxes to cover the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDerHoorn View Post
    Death is a part of life, which is the part I think we have forgotten.
    This is an easy thing to say when your aren't faced with death yourself or that of a loved one when you know it could be prevented.

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