Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

Not all true though is it? .

Was he, or was he not born in Cardiff? Yes he was.

Was he raised as a Christian? Yes he was.

Was he 17, and therefore a minor, at the time of the attack? Yes he was.

Is it illegal for the police to publish the name, ethnicity, religion etc of a minor? Yes it is.

For what it's worth, given the truth in the 4 lines above this and TTR having mentioned the rumours on "social media" being the cause of the rioting, it's perfectly understandable that the police didn't mention, IF they even knew in the first couple of days, him being radicalised as they KNEW it would lead to riots by the very people who ended up rioting. Any failure to release information will have been bound by 2 things. 1. The Law not allowing that sort of information about a minor to be published and 2. the wish to try to prevent rioting.

So, those getting anti about "not being told the truth" should remember that UK Law prevented any and all personal information being published and that, following the Law, in an attempt to prevent a riot, is exactly what a Government/the Police should do.

[ramAnag]

Was he, or was he not born in Cardiff? Yes he was.

Was he raised as a Christian? Yes he was.

Was he 17, and therefore a minor, at the time of the attack? Yes he was.

Is it illegal for the police to publish the name, ethnicity, religion etc of a minor? Yes it is.

For what it's worth, given the truth in the 4 lines above this and TTR having mentioned the rumours on "social media" being the cause of the rioting, it's perfectly understandable that the police didn't mention, IF they even knew in the first couple of days, him being radicalised as they KNEW it would lead to riots by the very people who ended up rioting. Any failure to release information will have been bound by 2 things. 1. The Law not allowing that sort of information about a minor to be published and 2. the wish to try to prevent rioting.

So, those getting anti about "not being told the truth" should remember that UK Law prevented any and all personal information being published and that, following the Law, in an attempt to prevent a riot, is exactly what a Government/the Police should do.

Far, far too reasonable, sensible and factual that, MA. There is also the whole matter of sub judice which certain people appear to have conveniently forgotten.

[Andy_Faber]

Far, far too reasonable, sensible and factual that, MA. There is also the whole matter of sub judice which certain people appear to have conveniently forgotten.

Not sure it?s been forgotten rA, the post which Sith started this conversation with related to a Farage interview which, if you follow the paper trail, relates to a suspected/rumoured (depending on which side of the fence you sit) legal device which may or may not (ditto) exist, and which again may or may not (ditto) relate to the Southport incident. TTR is under orders not to reveal (on here) any more than he has already under threat of sanction (remember, the ones you don?t agree with). Since then he?s stayed the right side of the line.

One thing I?d be interested in, and this is also addressed at MA: the use of super injunctions appear to be another tool that protect the ?haves? from the ?have nots?. Are you in favour of their existence?

[Trickytreesreds]

Was he, or was he not born in Cardiff? Yes he was.

Was he raised as a Christian? Yes he was.

Was he 17, and therefore a minor, at the time of the attack? Yes he was.

Is it illegal for the police to publish the name, ethnicity, religion etc of a minor? Yes it is.

For what it's worth, given the truth in the 4 lines above this and TTR having mentioned the rumours on "social media" being the cause of the rioting, it's perfectly understandable that the police didn't mention, IF they even knew in the first couple of days, him being radicalised as they KNEW it would lead to riots by the very people who ended up rioting. Any failure to release information will have been bound by 2 things. 1. The Law not allowing that sort of information about a minor to be published and 2. the wish to try to prevent rioting.

So, those getting anti about "not being told the truth" should remember that UK Law prevented any and all personal information being published and that, following the Law, in an attempt to prevent a riot, is exactly what a Government/the Police should do.

still a lot of holes in that MA.
Was he raised a Christian? Maybe, but he obviously has/had converted. It's come out of Belmarsh prison this week, he attends Mosque inside.
So its safe IMO, to assume he was Muslim at the time of the atrocity. So the question remains there, who and where converted him?
Talktv handed a dossier to police on certain Immans promoting death to Jews. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5irQUXb-1A
So when the mosque in Southport was attacked, is it not understandable why they become a target?
I am not supporting the violence that happened there, yet to deny/shift the blame/ cover up the reasons needs answering?

for me, they didn't do enough to damp down the flames of anger and made the situation worse.

[Trickytreesreds]

I cannot stop laughing, I really can't. You couldn't make Starlins brain up, you really couldn't
After having the full weight of the police and courts thrown at people typing nasty words of social media and Cooper getting the police to chase down school kids for hurty comments.
He now claims the police should concentrate on real crime . lol, you reackon?

WTF is a non crime, hate crime anyway? ?
It's not a crime, but its a hurt feeling crime, that warrents criminal police officers to persue?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/keir-star...an%20non-crime.

Surely thats an oxymoron, that upholders of criminal law, are chasing at best civil law breeches?

I congratulate Starlin. He's cause more chaos from the courts/ the law/ climate chaos/ pensioners/ farmers/ migration

Lets all eat cats and dogs and really get it going

[ramAnag]

I cannot stop laughing, I really can't. You couldn't make Starlins brain up, you really couldn't
After having the full weight of the police and courts thrown at people typing nasty words of social media and Cooper getting the police to chase down school kids for hurty comments.
He now claims the police should concentrate on real crime . lol, you reackon?

WTF is a non crime, hate crime anyway? ?
It's not a crime, but its a hurt feeling crime, that warrents criminal police officers to persue?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/keir-star...an%20non-crime.

Surely thats an oxymoron, that upholders of criminal law, are chasing at best civil law breeches?

I congratulate Starlin. He's cause more chaos from the courts/ the law/ climate chaos/ pensioners/ farmers/ migration

Lets all eat cats and dogs and really get it going

Jeez! Can someone please find his off switch?

[Trickytreesreds]

Jeez! Can someone please find his off switch?

Sauce for the goose mate. Your Tory assault at every turn, was a passion. Now politics with a government messing up, doesn't suit you?
Its really poetic.

[ramAnag]

Sauce for the goose mate. Your Tory assault at every turn, was a passion. Now politics with a government messing up, doesn't suit you?
Its really poetic.

Except that, those of us who criticised the likes of Johnson, Hancock, Truss, Braverman, Patel, Anderson, Cummings etc were all proved right. One by one they all lost their jobs and then their very significant majority.

It’s not the government that ‘doesn’t suit’. It’s your unrelenting, unsubstantiated, conspiracy laden propaganda.

[swaledale]

Except that, those of us who criticised the likes of Johnson, Hancock, Truss, Braverman, Patel, Anderson, Cummings etc were all proved right. One by one they all lost their jobs and then their very significant majority.

It’s not the government that ‘doesn’t suit’. It’s your unrelenting, unsubstantiated, conspiracy laden propaganda.

Its not his though is it? It parroting what he reads without checking facts, makes him look rather silly.

[swaledale]

Jeez! Can someone please find his off switch?

I like the way our red Ranter fails to check facts before parroting what right wing grifters have spewed forth! He repeatedly makes himself look rather dim!

First its amusing how Pearson, who was once famously left wing, has become such a bitter and twisted right wing shrill in her later years, I guess one says whatever one believes will pay well? Either that or her life is really miserable, poor dear. But I mean its entirely an understandable mistake to tweet offensively about the wrong Police force and wrong people. Maybe she needs better specs!! Funny that after many articles mocking those who claim to be "victims" she is now claiming victim status herself.

Second, Es*** Police have released a recording of the incident which is rather different from her claims.

Ah well nothing to see here, just Forest fan making himself look foolish with his rants ha ha.