O/T Democracy

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Question is would you want a red chicken as Prime Minister?

[great_fire]

Would a "red" take the side of upper middle class people who are scared of having to pay their nannies and cleaners a decent wage?

[BigLadonOS]

Whichever way Brexit pans out, No Deal or Remain, the arguments will persist. The lid is well and truly off the can of worms but, I hate to say it as I voted leave, the only way to make some progress is probably via another referendum.

A fair way to let remainers make their point whilst also acknowledging the result of the first referendum would be to hold another one slightly loaded in Brexit favour. How about; "Negotiated Deal" on one hand, and "Stay In" on the other. "Stay In" would need at least a 2/3 majority to overturn the original referendum result, anything less and "Negotiated Deal" wins.

There's ultimately no way forward that would shut everybody up but any subsequent referendum HAS to be loaded slightly in favour of some form of Brexit otherwise it makes a mockery of the word democracy.

The best and fairest way to get this over and done with is to walk away now with no deal and then have a referendum on staying out or going back in where the EU can also make a case for us going back in but they have to know that whatever they offer the UK they have to stick by or we walk away free.

[flourbasher]

After the 2016 vote, the recent EU mep vote the fairest way would be to reaffirm for a third time via an immediate GE that the public still wants to leave. Nothing's changed since 2016 in that respect.

If I were Bozzer I would be making a pact with the Brexit Party to attract a sizeable portion of Labour voters who refuse to vote Tory. Get this embarrassing delay put to bed and shut up the MP,s with hidden agenda,s trying to further their own careers.

Labour would end up as third or fourth in the opposition rankings and hopefully we would see an end to the hapless desperate corbyn, the racist Dianne Abbott and the angry selfish Emily Thornberry.
This country needs a strong opposition to challenge Bozzers antics but we won't get it with those people hanging around Labour

[KerrAvon]

Really hot here. Pyssed off that the General Election has been postponed. I'd hoped that half the campaign would be over before I get back to the UK.

My turn to organise the GE party though, so I suppose it gives me a bit more time.

Love to all, but especially Zyles. xxx

[rolymiller]

Gives you extra time to think about who you will vote for Kerr. I know who it won't be at least.

[KerrAvon]

It's a real quandry, Roly. I have never had a political home, but am particularly nomadic at the moment.

I see you have made some contributions to this thread. Do you think you should have voted in the referendum?

[BigLadonOS]

I hope Boris calls a no confidence in his own party on Monday if his request for a GE fails again.

[great_fire]

The Common Market was fine, we didn't need the Euro, freedom of movement, more federalism.

Brussels bureaucrats got greedy for more power and ruined everything.

[great_fire]

After the 2016 vote, the recent EU mep vote the fairest way would be to reaffirm for a third time via an immediate GE that the public still wants to leave. Nothing's changed since 2016 in that respect.

If I were Bozzer I would be making a pact with the Brexit Party to attract a sizeable portion of Labour voters who refuse to vote Tory. Get this embarrassing delay put to bed and shut up the MP,s with hidden agenda,s trying to further their own careers.

Labour would end up as third or fourth in the opposition rankings and hopefully we would see an end to the hapless desperate corbyn, the racist Dianne Abbott and the angry selfish Emily Thornberry.
This country needs a strong opposition to challenge Bozzers antics but we won't get it with those people hanging around Labour

Blair's back in the picture directing them, won't be long before his protege Starmer takes over and they'll be flooded with neoliberal lawyers again.