Tony Asghar

[Shedboy1971]

Retired Arab has a point though - being respectful, tolerant and recognising other people’s positions in discussions/arguments is really important. For instance, remember when thon boy himself that was on the Sportsound programme was physically removed out of the Gordon Brown meeting during the Indy campaign for shouting, heckling and generally being aggressive? Not much tolerance there unfortunately and pretty embarrassing TBH.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2...ech-in-dundee/

agree. I need to listen to GB and NOT pay my licence fee

[Retired Arab]

Retired Arab has a point though - being respectful, tolerant and recognising other people’s positions in discussions/arguments is really important. For instance, remember when thon boy himself that was on the Sportsound programme was physically removed out of the Gordon Brown meeting during the Indy campaign for shouting, heckling and generally being aggressive? Not much tolerance there unfortunately and pretty embarrassing TBH.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2...ech-in-dundee/

There's a whole background story to this incident that involves democratic issues relating to prevention of attendance, absence of opportunity to question G Brown, deliberate lying, obstruction etc. Much more to that episode of which you and many others are obviously unaware of. For the record, I decided to leave and was never physically removed but let's not allow FACTS to interfere with your version

[JamesMcClean]

There's a whole background story to this incident that involves democratic issues relating to prevention of attendance, absence of opportunity to question G Brown, deliberate lying, obstruction etc. Much more to that episode of which you and many others are obviously unaware of. For the record, I decided to leave and was never physically removed but let's not allow FACTS to interfere with your version

Outed.

Why the cloak and dagger stuff earlier on? For example, post #61 and I quote ‘‘They got a guy from one of the Utd Supporters Group on’ when you know that you were actually one and the same?

What’s that all about?

[Retired Arab]

Outed.

Why the cloak and dagger stuff earlier on? For example, post #61 and I quote ‘‘They got a guy from one of the Utd Supporters Group on’ when you know that you were actually one and the same?

What’s that all about?

If you read the post again carefully and slowly perhaps you'll understand that I was quoting a BNB to give a summary.

[JamesMcClean]

If you read the post again carefully and slowly perhaps you'll understand that I was quoting a BNB to give a summary.

Fair do’s, my bad I misread this.

However I didn’t misread this when you started a new thread on this earlier in the week with the following -


“Mischievous Arabs have been deliberately misquoting what was said by the WJTA representative on Monday’s broadcast.

Don’t rely on fake news just listen carefully now to Tom English crucify Dundee United.

Our man defends Tony Asghar and criticises the secretive Government’s Joint Response Group. “

So rather than ‘WJTA representative’ and ‘our man’ I don’t know why you couldn’t have just referred to ‘yourself’. Also didn’t understand why a completely new separate thread was required to be started on this same topic earlier in the week. Actions such as that make you start to wonder if it’s about genuine concern over United that you have or a good dose of self publicity required having been absent from this board for quite some time.

FWIW, I have concerns over United’s current position (what supporter wouldn’t quite frankly?) but I’ll tell you this - I trust the Ogdens to get it right a helluva lot more than if the Snake had still been in charge.

[A. J]

Every Arab is entitled to have an opinion but it should be tolerant and respectful. I refuse to discuss issues with individuals who are incapable of rational debate and constantly resort to immature personal abuse. I will never be silenced by these bullies!

Any Arab choosing to voice an opinion on a national debate needs to remember, rightly or wrongly that they have decided to represent the club, so needs to deliver comments in a respectful way, resorting to immature comments about others on a public debate is a no no and an embarrassment to the supporters of the club he has chosen to represent.

Slagging any club including the wee club is fine on a Utd Mad forum where any non utd fans lurking know what to expect.
The call to say those things on that platform was wrong simples

[Shedboy1971]

Any Arab choosing to voice an opinion on a national debate needs to remember, rightly or wrongly that they have decided to represent the club, so needs to deliver comments in a respectful way, resorting to immature comments about others on a public debate is a no no and an embarrassment to the supporters of the club he has chosen to represent.

Slagging any club including the wee club is fine on a Utd Mad forum where any non utd fans lurking know what to expect.
The call to say those things on that platform was wrong simples

it was a setup tbh. So an arab (aye one who splits opinion) goes on radio to discuss about the club he loves. says some stuff that i wouldnt want my club saying and gets pillored on here for it. Come on chaps and chapesses. The bbc and adam should apologise for this sham. Keep talking have an opinion!! I dont actually agree with some of RAs posts at all and some say i am the real RA but SRYB to one and all who care enough about the club i love to have an opinion.

[Retired Arab]

Any Arab choosing to voice an opinion on a national debate needs to remember, rightly or wrongly that they have decided to represent the club,

I was invited to represent WJTA not Dundee United FC. Why can some folk not understand simple facts? I suppose I just have to accept some people don't have the mental capacity to deal with real facts. I always believed there are 10 kinds of people. Those who know binary, and those who don’t.

[A. J]

I was invited to represent WJTA not Dundee United FC. Why can some folk not understand simple facts? I suppose I just have to accept some people don't have the mental capacity to deal with real facts. I always believed there are 10 kinds of people. Those who know binary, and those who don’t.

Bigger picture mate, by default comments made by a known Arab are also seen to represent thoughts of fans regardless.

So there are 4 types of folk
Those who don't know that they're talking shyte - unconsciously incompetent
Those who do but can't help themselves - consciously incompetent
Those who know they might talk shyte and think about what they say - consciously competent
Those that don't talk shyte cos they're wired properly - unconsciously competent

In case you do belong in the first I will simplify it further
In life there are those who own it when they c0ck up and those who don't

Get a grip and stop talking shyte

[tHeArAb]

it seems that when folk are incapable of structured debate and are losing an argument, they always resort to this kind of abuse and totally deflect from the actual issues So sad.

Of course the moderators are responsible for dealing with this?

Every Arab is entitled to have an opinion but it should be tolerant and respectful. I refuse to discuss issues with individuals who are incapable of rational debate and constantly resort to immature personal abuse. I will never be silenced by these bullies!

By the way, I'd like to add that it's more embarrassing finding myself discussing issues with someone who is incapable of using capital letters, full stops and basic grammar. Sadly that makes your point lose credibility with lots of sensible people.

I suppose I just have to accept some people don't have the mental capacity to deal with real facts

Pot & kettle here don't you think? Claiming you are suffering at the hands of personal abuse, whilst at the same time belittling one of the boards best posters for his grammar and insinuating a lack of sense, then referring to posters on this board as being mentally challenged.

You can't have it all ways.