Match Thread vs. Stockport County 15.12.20 [NL]

[Elite_Pie]

Also, very interested to hear the managers blunt, to the point comments to the players about desire, going the extra mile etc.

I was also interested, but couldn't help but wonder why he didn't say it in the relegation season. Let me guess your reply - he probably did say it, but the players weren't capable of reacting!

I agree it was an excellent interview from Turner. Honest with a bit of humour, and from a player who cares deeply and clearly isn't just here to collect on his final contract. All I've ever asked from a player wearing the Notts shirt is that sort of commitment.

[laddo]

My reply is, you really have a problem with 'moving on' as another person has already highlighted.

This was a pre match speech to the players, an interesting gauntlet thrown down before the game with Stockport and you bring up not last season but the season before?! A totally different scenario , a desperate relegation scrap with a different squad. Not a promotion challenge (hopefully) season with all his players and against another promotion chasing well supported and financially supported club.

There is a lot to wonder and a hell of a lot of questions regarding the relegation season, the manager's pre match speeches were only a small part of that comically dismal campaign. On NCM we've discussed, debated and argued about that season to death. It's dull.

Move on...enjoy the insightful interview and maybe concentrate on this season, looking to the future and not the past.

It's gone, let it go chap. Try to not derail yet another matchday thread.

[Elite_Pie]

It's gone, let it go chap. Try to not derail yet another matchday thread.

It's hardly "derailing" a matchday thread when the match finished two days ago!

We all know that when you say "move on", you mean "forget how dismal Ardley was in the relegation season". Rather than just the future, I prefer to look at the bigger picture. If we also forget this season the games against Dover, Maidenhead, Aldershot and Boreham Wood, then he's done a great job so far. Let's all hope we can't add King's Lynn to that rather embarrassing list.

[SwalePie]

...If we also forget this season the games against Dover, Maidenhead, Aldershot and Boreham Wood, then he's done a great job so far. Let's all hope we can't add King's Lynn to that rather embarrassing list.

To be fair looking at the league and the current form he's done a great job so far this season either way. Yes it could have been even better, which NA openly acknowledges, but we're doing well.

[magpie_mania]

It's hardly "derailing" a matchday thread when the match finished two days ago!

We all know that when you say "move on", you mean "forget how dismal Ardley was in the relegation season". Rather than just the future, I prefer to look at the bigger picture. If we also forget this season the games against Dover, Maidenhead, Aldershot and Boreham Wood, then he's done a great job so far. Let's all hope we can't add King's Lynn to that rather embarrassing list.

I'm sure there will be some with fingers at the ready now on the keyboard in case we should lose v KL. (Not to mention Morpeth).

In the top 3, just beaten the team most are saying are the best in the league, 1 goal conceded in 5 games. I am happy enough (would be better if we were scoring more) going into Christmas, good foundation for a genuine promotion push.

COYP

[Elite_Pie]

I'm sure there will be some with fingers at the ready now on the keyboard in case we should lose v KL. (Not to mention Morpeth).

In the top 3, just beaten the team most are saying are the best in the league, 1 goal conceded in 5 games. I am happy enough (would be better if we were scoring more) going into Christmas, good foundation for a genuine promotion push.

COYP

Agree, we've got a good foundation for a promotion push but when I look at the fixtures we've played I can't help but think we've underachieved a bit so far. Beating Stockport was a definite step in the right direction, and I hope we carry it on. I said after the defeat at Dover on the opening day that I had a nasty feeling that result might be the one to bite us on the arse at the end of the season. I know laddo will say "it's gone, get over it and look to the future", but the league table looks at that game exactly the same as any other.

[Davy500]

Your wasting your time Elite pie, with basically pro Ardley supporters, that will say we are promotion candidates after this marginal win
I said it was essential we won , otherwise automatic would have been over, we are still 9 points behind, we have to play them twice - we could lose twice, they talk as if we will win twice and its points in the bag , then if we get Callum back - who has done nothing this season
It was a good result against Stockport , but another game into the closing stages not decided , and can we beat the poor teams like kings Lynn - if we are promotion hopefuls nothing short of 2 wins against them is acceptable
Yes at the moment it looks as if we should be in the top 4 or 5 , but there are no prises for that, only first gives automatic promotion, i say play offs and i stand by that

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Your wasting your time Elite pie, with basically pro Ardley supporters, that will say we are promotion candidates after this marginal win
I said it was essential we won , otherwise automatic would have been over, we are still 9 points behind, we have to play them twice - we could lose twice, they talk as if we will win twice and its points in the bag , then if we get Callum back - who has done nothing this season
It was a good result against Stockport , but another game into the closing stages not decided , and can we beat the poor teams like kings Lynn - if we are promotion hopefuls nothing short of 2 wins against them is acceptable
Yes at the moment it looks as if we should be in the top 4 or 5 , but there are no prises for that, only first gives automatic promotion, i say play offs and i stand by that

Would the pro Ardley fans still be gloating and waxing so lyrically if we were say 7th in the table?
Which is a possibility if those teams below us win their games in hand.
Ardley is doing what he does.
Safety first at all costs.once he starts going at the lesser teams and becomes more adventurous in his approach against these,we will remain treading water.
Win a few draw a few lose a few..
Yes we beat stockport which is great , but follow this up with a couple of tepid results against lower rated teams and it all counts for nothing..
OH I forgot...
There are no easy games in this league ,
Who do we think we are,we have no devine right to win any game...
We are ravaged by covid we are lucky to even be able to play a game,never mind challenge for promotion.
It's all hardys fault.
Blah blah blah...brigade!!
When it's quite simple.
Since hes arrived he has employed negative tactics and has continued to use them even though they got us relegated and failed to get us promotion.
This season is s copy of last year, which I believe will have the same ending..
Failure

[laddo]

It's hardly "derailing" a matchday thread when the match finished two days ago!

We all know that when you say "move on", you mean "forget how dismal Ardley was in the relegation season". Rather than just the future, I prefer to look at the bigger picture. If we also forget this season the games against Dover, Maidenhead, Aldershot and Boreham Wood, then he's done a great job so far. Let's all hope we can't add King's Lynn to that rather embarrassing list.

Why forget games this season? I have purposefully mentioned disappointing perfomances against Borehamwood and Maidenhead because it's this season, it's relevent.

Ardley was pretty dismal in the relegation season, we know that. So were the large group of players used, so were the previous managers employed and above all so was the chairman. You can't tell me that collectively the players didn't let down all 3 managers that season?

Why can't you take the insightful interview for what it is, and what it highlighted? The manager's pre match talk to the players against a big spending and impressive Stockport, a challenge for them to man up and match them! Which they more than did, yet you choose to go back to 2 seasons ago?

[laddo]

Your wasting your time Elite pie, with basically pro Ardley supporters, that will say we are promotion candidates after this marginal win
I said it was essential we won , otherwise automatic would have been over, we are still 9 points behind, we have to play them twice - we could lose twice, they talk as if we will win twice and its points in the bag , then if we get Callum back - who has done nothing this season
It was a good result against Stockport , but another game into the closing stages not decided , and can we beat the poor teams like kings Lynn - if we are promotion hopefuls nothing short of 2 wins against them is acceptable
Yes at the moment it looks as if we should be in the top 4 or 5 , but there are no prises for that, only first gives automatic promotion, i say play offs and i stand by that

So Davy, we play well against a good side, defensively we were very solid, we win and more so we deservedly win and you still aren't satisfied because we went into last 15 mins with only a one goal lead?? Tough crowd!!!! Lol

#noagenda

Let's be honest if Stockport were still playing now they would have only scored a couple, more than 2 days on.

I say playoffs too as we are far too inconsistent to achieve top spot just like last season. It's tough to finish top after all as obviously all but one will fail.

If as Pedro says this season is a copy cat of last season we will finish in the play offs , lose in final and fail to get promotion.

If that happens we should get rid of Ardley and everyone bar Neal is happy. So I say relax stick on some Ken Bruce and enjoy the day