O/T Which jab have you had?

[ragingpup]

I agree with Grist (I've always wanted to say that). I think that there are many valid criticisms of the UK's response to Covid, but when the dust settles, our approach to vaccination will be seen as first rate - from the early investment in the AZ vaccine, through the early and generous ordering and into the 12 week gap strategy and slick roll out . We should be thanking our good fortune.

The treatment of Astra- Zenica has been shameful. Vaccines are not part of their usual business, but they were persuaded to work with Oxford University by the government. They have been rewarded for their efforts by being used as a smokescreen by European politicians who are trying to hide their failings and being bombarded with media scare stories (some of them driven by one of raging's favourites - Russia Today).

If we are smart, we should hold out the vaccine response as a model for a post-Brexit economy - tech and science friendly and where innovation is rewarded. Sadly, I don't think we are smart.

I agree with Kerr (never wanted to say that) on much of this. But RT a favourite?! Think I've only ever read that one article I linked to. You know the one Kerr, the one that you couldn't counter the argument provided within it, so instead you just slandered the outlet! Well you're in good company on here

Nice to see you back again, as soon as the mods give in and allow us all to spout our usual political drivel on the main board.

[KerrAvon]

I agree with Kerr (never wanted to say that) on much of this. But RT a favourite?! Think I've only ever read that one article I linked to. You know the one Kerr, the one that you couldn't counter the argument provided within it, so instead you just slandered the outlet! Well you're in good company on here

Nice to see you back again, as soon as the mods give in and allow us all to spout our usual political drivel on the main board.

Memories differ, raging. I recall a weekend where you repeatedly asked me to respond to 'the facts' (your words) in a Russia Today article. My 'slandering' of the article was simply to point out that 'the facts' (your words) in a Russia Today article tend to be whatever Putin and the Russian government wants them to be.

I'm surprised that you only ever read one article on RT. Didn't your former spiritual leader, Mr Corbyn encourage his acolytes to read RT?

I tried for some time to stop spouting drivel on here. It used to bore me to write it, let alone anyone who was foolish enough to read it. Cam's diktat simply provided added impetous to my attempts. Good to see your and Roly's Damoclean conversion to not wanting to talk politics. Lol

[wendun]

Memories differ, raging. I recall a weekend where you repeatedly asked me to respond to 'the facts' (your words) in a Russia Today article. My 'slandering' of the article was simply to point out that 'the facts' (your words) in a Russia Today article tend to be whatever Putin and the Russian government wants them to be.

I'm surprised that you only ever read one article on RT. Didn't your former spiritual leader, Mr Corbyn encourage his acolytes to read RT?

I tried for some time to stop spouting drivel on here. It used to bore me to write it, let alone anyone who was foolish enough to read it. Cam's diktat simply provided added impetous to my attempts. Good to see your and Roly's Damoclean conversion to not wanting to talk politics. Lol

Cam's a decent poster. Quite humorous. But as a mod he's a complete rrse. Never been happy since FootyMad stopped him spending his nights checking IP addresses. The guy is a Stalinist. We have a poll on MM and 87% want to keep the politics on the main board. A couple of footy bores don't like it but who cares? Well, Cam does. One night in a move that Putin would hesitate to make he just decided "I'm the Great Cam and this is what you lot are going to get." All the Socialist Libertarians on here fall over themselves trying to be first to kiss his Yankee rrse. For me he can take a taxi and shove right off.

[ragingpup]

Memories differ, raging. I recall a weekend where you repeatedly asked me to respond to 'the facts' (your words) in a Russia Today article. My 'slandering' of the article was simply to point out that 'the facts' (your words) in a Russia Today article tend to be whatever Putin and the Russian government wants them to be.

I'm surprised that you only ever read one article on RT. Didn't your former spiritual leader, Mr Corbyn encourage his acolytes to read RT?

I tried for some time to stop spouting drivel on here. It used to bore me to write it, let alone anyone who was foolish enough to read it. Cam's diktat simply provided added impetous to my attempts. Good to see your and Roly's Damoclean conversion to not wanting to talk politics. Lol

Kerr, you did what you always do - you take anyone that takes an opposing left based stance to you and then target them as extremists, however reasoned their argumants might be. Never heard of Corbyn encouraging anyone to read it, nor care if he did.

I'm quite happy to join in political arguments on the other board if one started that interested me. But the main footy board is better without the constant agit prop from all of us, and the personal abuse that it spawned. Any visiting fans, or reasonable Millers fans would not have been encouraged to join, just assuming the board was populated by football 'lad' nutjob activists and conspiracists. I never started any political posts, and have always said that I'm happy if none exist on here, but if they must, why not on a seperate board?

[gm_gm]

I agree with Grist (I've always wanted to say that). I think that there are many valid criticisms of the UK's response to Covid, but when the dust settles, our approach to vaccination will be seen as first rate - from the early investment in the AZ vaccine, through the early and generous ordering and into the 12 week gap strategy and slick roll out . We should be thanking our good fortune.

The treatment of Astra- Zenica has been shameful. Vaccines are not part of their usual business, but they were persuaded to work with Oxford University by the government. They have been rewarded for their efforts by being used as a smokescreen by European politicians who are trying to hide their failings and being bombarded with media scare stories (some of them driven by one of raging's favourites - Russia Today).

If we are smart, we should hold out the vaccine response as a model for a post-Brexit economy - tech and science friendly and where innovation is rewarded. Sadly, I don't think we are smart.

Couldnt agree more Kerr the organisation surrounding the vaccines has been nothing short of miraculous, the FT reported more than 1,000 EU financial firms are relocating to the UK, I suspect most of these will be fintech.

I think it shows the world that the UK outside the EU is worth investment, more so than when we were in the club

[WanChaiMiller]

Couldnt agree more Kerr the organisation surrounding the vaccines has been nothing short of miraculous, the FT reported more than 1,000 EU financial firms are relocating to the UK, I suspect most of these will be fintech.

I think it shows the world that the UK outside the EU is worth investment, more so than when we were in the club

Odd how the failure of a Brexit promise which has cost the UK £1.3 trillion in assets moving to the EU and individual companies many billions in relocation costs is hailed as some kind of a Brexit triumph. Madness.

[great_fire]

Odd how the failure of a Brexit promise which has cost the UK £1.3 trillion in assets moving to the EU and individual companies many billions in relocation costs is hailed as some kind of a Brexit triumph. Madness.

The EU hasn't covered itself in glory since we've left, but on the other hand, if this is the type of government we're going to get now we're running our own country, that doesn't leave me that optimistic about the future either.

[KerrAvon]

The covid vaccines are the first mRNA vaccines to be used in humans, but the technique has been studied for 20 years or so and is well understood.

Of course we don't know with absolute certainty what long term effects might flow from the use of the vaccines, because there hasn't been time for long term studies. There is no reason to believe that they wil have any long term effects, however. The mRNA that the vaccines introduce into human cells will be present for only minutes before is it broken down.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

True, being in control of your own destiny can be a daunting thought for some

[WanChaiMiller]

True, being in control of your own destiny can be a daunting thought for some

Yet the burden of Brexit will fall on those companies that trade globally. Those I know are an optimistic bunch who see it as a challenge and not daunted by it particilarly.

The truth is the challenges Brexit presents will not fall on you. So youre ok to taunt from the safety of your bunker.

Unless of course you have a big plan of your own to make Brexit work?