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    We should have lodged an official complaint after the Shankland penalty. That one on Saturday was a joke. All 10 outfield players should have been round the referee.
    I don't like to see that normally, but when you're being cheated by Shankland, Halliday and Main AND VAR you need to be fighting back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    We should have lodged an official complaint after the Shankland penalty. That one on Saturday was a joke. All 10 outfield players should have been round the referee.
    I don't like to see that normally, but when you're being cheated by Shankland, Halliday and Main AND VAR you need to be fighting back.
    I don't agree that were should be hounding the referee. I fail to see what our would achieve, aside from getting the club in hot water.

    The referee has made an honest mistake, I've no problem with that. What I do have an issue with is why the VAR official would look at that and think it was a penalty. It's so obviously not when you see the footage, total embarrassment.

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    This can't be forgotten about, it's the worst decision we've ever had against us when you have VAR there to help

    Now the var official is Colin Steven, he is the same muppet ref that gave Hearts the penalty at the end of the December game and he then fails to call the ref over for what was a blatant error, it was clearcut from where I was sat, he has an agenda against Utd

    Napier the ref Saturday was terrible for us earlier in the season too and he had a clear view, took time to think about it and still decided to point to the spot, why??

    Human bias, need foreign refs

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    This can't be forgotten about, it's the worst decision we've ever had against us when you have VAR there to help

    Now the var official is Colin Steven, he is the same muppet ref that gave Hearts the penalty at the end of the December game and he then fails to call the ref over for what was a blatant error, it was clearcut from where I was sat, he has an agenda against Utd

    Napier the ref Saturday was terrible for us earlier in the season too and he had a clear view, took time to think about it and still decided to point to the spot, why??

    Human bias, need foreign refs
    Like we have never been done by a foreign ref before!

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    If we'd hounded the ref the guy in var would have passed the buck back to the ref to make a decision. Same way Halliday made a meal of rolling about and pointing to his leg for benefit of var.

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    I don't think there is an agenda against us, that's old firm talk. The st Johnstone hand ball v killie at the weekend every bit as appalling as our pen on Saturday. On both occasions refs have perfect view and get it wrong, and var does nothing. Ref had a shocker at parkhead too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    This can't be forgotten about, it's the worst decision we've ever had against us when you have VAR there to help

    Now the var official is Colin Steven, he is the same muppet ref that gave Hearts the penalty at the end of the December game and he then fails to call the ref over for what was a blatant error, it was clearcut from where I was sat, he has an agenda against Utd

    Napier the ref Saturday was terrible for us earlier in the season too and he had a clear view, took time to think about it and still decided to point to the spot, why??

    Human bias, need foreign refs
    He did take an age to give it, perfect position too, like many I thought he'd actually blown, having decided to go back and book main for diving.

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    VAR is not the problem it is the people using it that is the problem. The referees on the pitch are extremely poor but they only get one look before they make their decision but those in the studio could watch it for as long as they like and still not get it correct. Stuart Douglas on Vardict, ex ref so he will defend them all day long, said that there was minimal contact but at the very least the VAR official should’ve told the ref to have a second look. The only thing I could query is the VAR official seeing the same pictures as BBC Scotland showing.
    Should Main be up in front of the SFA for simulation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by southwestarab View Post
    VAR is not the problem it is the people using it that is the problem. The referees on the pitch are extremely poor but they only get one look before they make their decision but those in the studio could watch it for as long as they like and still not get it correct. Stuart Douglas on Vardict, ex ref so he will defend them all day long, said that there was minimal contact but at the very least the VAR official should’ve told the ref to have a second look. The only thing I could query is the VAR official seeing the same pictures as BBC Scotland showing.
    Should Main be up in front of the SFA for simulation?

    VAR getting highlighted on Reporting Scotland this evening. Not sure getting rid of it is the answer though. The referee gave a penalty, so that would have still stood.

    Still can’t believe a separate pair of eyes still thought that was a penalty. Utterly baffling.
    These were the decisions VAR was brought in to overturn.
    For me, Main should get a 2-3 game ban. Players like him would soon cut it out of their game.

    Also now seen the St.Johnstone handball v Kilmarnock. The Offside goal that sevco were awarded, and the ‘red card’ awarded against Hibs v Celtic. The usual suspects are the usual beneficiaries yet again.

    The problem is, the schite VAR referee, is every bit as bad as the schite on-field referee.

    I think a panel of a couple of ex-pros alongside a VAR referee, would work better
    “Open all mics” have access to the VAR screens during the game, and THEY come up with the correct decision almost every single time.
    Last edited by Shedboy_Shimmy; 20-03-2023 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedboy_Shimmy View Post
    VAR getting highlighted on Reporting Scotland this evening. Not sure getting rid of it is the answer though. The referee gave a penalty, so that would have still stood.

    Still can’t believe a separate pair of eyes still thought that was a penalty. Utterly baffling.
    These were the decisions VAR was brought in to overturn.
    For me, Main should get a 2-3 game ban. Players like him would soon cut it out of their game.

    Also now seen the St.Johnstone handball v Kilmarnock. The Offside goal that sevco were awarded, and the ‘red card’ awarded against Hibs v Celtic. The usual suspects are the usual beneficiaries yet again.

    The problem is, the schite VAR referee, is every bit as bad as the schite on-field referee.

    I think a panel of a couple of ex-pros alongside a VAR referee, would work better
    “Open all mics” have access to the VAR screens during the game, and THEY come up with the correct decision almost every single time.
    The likes of Neil McCann and Richard Foster making decisions that affect the outcome of Dundee United games? Nah you're alright.

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