O/T Farmers

[Brin]

What I'd like to see is which economic genius' on here would know how to tackle the sheer s.hit pile the Tories have left behind of a 14 year rule?

Come on you boffins do tell us all, we're waiting........meanwhile a new party has been elected and suddenly what they are trying to do to 'attempt' to wrong the right is all utterly shameful and wrong on all levels. So............what's the answer?

[CAMiller]

What I'd like to see is which economic genius' on here would know how to tackle the sheer s.hit pile the Tories have left behind of a 14 year rule?

Come on you boffins do tell us all, we're waiting........meanwhile a new party has been elected and suddenly what they are trying to do to 'attempt' to wrong the right is all utterly shameful and wrong on all levels. So............what's the answer?

Bring on 'The Donald'

[Brin]

What I'd like to see is which economic genius' on here would know how to tackle the sheer s.hit pile the Tories have left behind of a 14 year rule?

Come on you boffins do tell us all, we're waiting........meanwhile a new party has been elected and suddenly what they are trying to do to 'attempt' to wrong the right is all utterly shameful and wrong on all levels. So............what's the answer?

No takers I see.

[crashbang]

What I'd like to see is which economic genius' on here would know how to tackle the sheer s.hit pile the Tories have left behind of a 14 year rule?

Come on you boffins do tell us all, we're waiting........meanwhile a new party has been elected and suddenly what they are trying to do to 'attempt' to wrong the right is all utterly shameful and wrong on all levels. So............what's the answer?

Labour didn't have to pay £70billion on furlough, plus other help to businesses.

[KerrAvon]

Labour didn't have to pay £70billion on furlough, plus other help to businesses.

In a strict sense neither did the Tories. It was the taxpayer.

Are you happy with the state of public services in the UK, Crash?

If not, how would you improve them?

[CAMiller]

In a strict sense neither did the Tories. It was the taxpayer.

Are you happy with the state of public services in the UK, Crash?

If not, how would you improve them?

Oversimplification I'm sure I'll be told but I would require that anyone out of work and in receipt of benefits provide at least some value for their benefits by performing public service work.

[crashbang]

In a strict sense neither did the Tories. It was the taxpayer.

Are you happy with the state of public services in the UK, Crash?

If not, how would you improve them?

Yes all good here mate. Happy as Larry.

[caytonmiller]

In a strict sense neither did the Tories. It was the taxpayer.

Are you happy with the state of public services in the UK, Crash?

If not, how would you improve them?

I wonder what would have happened to the economy if COVID didnt happen? Would the torys still have feked up or was it a COVID, Brexit, Ukraine war that snowballed the effect?

[mygiddypant]

I wonder what would have happened to the economy if COVID didnt happen? Would the torys still have feked up or was it a COVID, Brexit, Ukraine war that snowballed the effect?

The economic decline started well before Covid, with the introduction of Osborne's program of austerity. But it's arguable which has had the more dramatic effect - austerity or Brexit.

Google AI tells us that Brexit has had the following effect on the economy -

The UK's economy has been negatively impacted by Brexit in a number of ways, including:

The UK's GDP is estimated to be 1.2–4.5% lower than it would have been if the UK had remained in the EU. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) estimates that the UK's productivity will be 4% lower in the long run due to Brexit.

The UK has 1.8 million fewer jobs than it would have had if Brexit hadn't happened.

The UK's trade with the EU and the rest of the world has fallen relative to the size of the UK economy. In 2023, the UK's goods exports to the EU were 11% below their 2019 level.

The war has had negligible impact compared to Covid PPE. The UK Parliament website tells us -

The Department for Health & Social Care (DHSC) lost 75% of the £12 billion it spent on personal protective equipment (PPE) in the first year of the pandemic to inflated prices and kit that did not meet requirements – including fully £4 billion of PPE that will not be used in the NHS and needs to be disposed of. There is no clear disposal strategy for this excess but the Department says it plans to burn significant volumes of it to generate power – though there are concerns about the cost-effectiveness and environmental impact of this “strategy”.

As austerity and Brexit are down to the Tories then you have to conclude* that they have a significant responsibility for the current malaise of the economy.

*unless of course you are intellectually inclined to one of the many conspiracy theories. The link is not related to the economy, but is a wonderful example of the magic of conspiracy world.

https://x.com/MikeSington/status/1844432733352886299

[crashbang]

In a strict sense neither did the Tories. It was the taxpayer.

Are you happy with the state of public services in the UK, Crash?

If not, how would you improve them?

In the strict sense don't labour use tax payers money? That's a new angle.