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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    So the issue gets mentioned in parliament and the Labour party boo, heckle , scream far right, shut up and move on, show yet again, how poliiticians care jack squat about justice and whats right. They really are a party of low lifes, who have dragged this into the gutter.
    I wonder how they'd have felt had it been one of their daughters?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUWwPJK9Zg
    Professor Alexis Jay headed a SEVEN year inquiry into the grooming and raping gangs, culminating in a report, published in 2022 containing 20 odd recommendations. The whole process is said to have cost ?200M.

    Form 2022 to 2024, the Conservative government did NOWT to implement a single of the report's recommendations.

    Six months into a Labour government, what do we have? On Sunday Wes Streeting said on LauraK that the cabinet was looking to implement recommendations and was actively working on it. the next day, the Home Secretary announces in the House that failing to report this type of offence will become a criminal offence and should hit the Statute Books this year. Positive action that even you should appreciate.

    In my humble opinion, Cons and Reform should now STFU on this and back the government in their efforts to implement the Jay Recommendations. Once implemented, those measures should be monitored and amended when and where necessary.

    Yesterday, Professor Jay said Cons/Reform should stop politicising it. A further inquiry (MA - which will take God alone knows how long and how much more money) isn't necessary. What is necessary is her recommendations getting implemented. I, for one, fully agree with her.

    Another humble opinion of mine is that Prof Jay knows a damned sight more about this than TTR or anybody else on here, including me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Professor Alexis Jay headed a SEVEN year inquiry into the grooming and raping gangs, culminating in a report, published in 2022 containing 20 odd recommendations. The whole process is said to have cost ?200M.

    Form 2022 to 2024, the Conservative government did NOWT to implement a single of the report's recommendations.

    Six months into a Labour government, what do we have? On Sunday Wes Streeting said on LauraK that the cabinet was looking to implement recommendations and was actively working on it. the next day, the Home Secretary announces in the House that failing to report this type of offence will become a criminal offence and should hit the Statute Books this year. Positive action that even you should appreciate.

    In my humble opinion, Cons and Reform should now STFU on this and back the government in their efforts to implement the Jay Recommendations. Once implemented, those measures should be monitored and amended when and where necessary.

    Yesterday, Professor Jay said Cons/Reform should stop politicising it. A further inquiry (MA - which will take God alone knows how long and how much more money) isn't necessary. What is necessary is her recommendations getting implemented. I, for one, fully agree with her.

    Another humble opinion of mine is that Prof Jay knows a damned sight more about this than TTR or anybody else on here, including me.
    Well said MA. I was just about to write much the same but thankfully you beat me to it.

    Tricky, climb down off your bandwagon. Labour have been in power for little more than half a year. The Tories had 14 years to address the problem and the likes of Jess Phillips know more about domestic/child abuse and have done more to help the victims than probably anyone else in Parliament. I don’t agree with everything she says but there is, thanks to Musk’s irresponsible messaging and ignorant sh1t stirring from the likes of you, an increasing possibility of her becoming the next Jo Cox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Professor Alexis Jay headed a SEVEN year inquiry into the grooming and raping gangs, culminating in a report, published in 2022 containing 20 odd recommendations. The whole process is said to have cost ?200M.

    Form 2022 to 2024, the Conservative government did NOWT to implement a single of the report's recommendations.

    Six months into a Labour government, what do we have? On Sunday Wes Streeting said on LauraK that the cabinet was looking to implement recommendations and was actively working on it. the next day, the Home Secretary announces in the House that failing to report this type of offence will become a criminal offence and should hit the Statute Books this year. Positive action that even you should appreciate.

    In my humble opinion, Cons and Reform should now STFU on this and back the government in their efforts to implement the Jay Recommendations. Once implemented, those measures should be monitored and amended when and where necessary.

    Yesterday, Professor Jay said Cons/Reform should stop politicising it. A further inquiry (MA - which will take God alone knows how long and how much more money) isn't necessary. What is necessary is her recommendations getting implemented. I, for one, fully agree with her.

    Another humble opinion of mine is that Prof Jay knows a damned sight more about this than TTR or anybody else on here, including me.
    To be fair a Gnat knows more than TTR!

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    The Tories have had 14 years to address a problem reported on in 2022? Now I agree labour need more time to sort these things out but let's be realistic here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    The Tories have had 14 years to address a problem reported on in 2022? Now I agree labour need more time to sort these things out but let's be realistic here
    If you could put that spoon down for a moment and cease the snide asides you’d recognise that questions about ‘grooming gangs’ were first raised at the beginning of the century. Other forms of both organised and more isolated, often family based, child abuse have unfortunately been around for a lot longer
    If and when you have anything relevant to say I’ll take notice. Until then…probably not.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 08-01-2025 at 04:08 PM.

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    There's a useful timeline of the abuse 'issue' here if you're interested, https://news.sky.com/story/grooming-...tions-13285021 , just ignore the initial shock that it looks like Tony Hadley was head of the CPS and read on, its fairly straight and unbiased

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    Good

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    No RA, I won't STFU, as this is bigger than the current Labour government and the previous one.
    It started a long time ago and the memo from Brown is doing the rounds at the moment, evem though it goes back further than that.

    HTF can any one tell the police to not follow this up, as it is a life style choice from a child escapes me.
    These girls were targetted, raped, abused, tortured, impregnated and trafficked.
    Demographics say that white abuses lead the way. But that is only by the nations ethnic ratios.
    But grooming gangs are predomintly Pakistani/Banglideshi. Targetting white/hindu girls.

    This is a disgrace that it wasn't jumped on by politicians for the sake of votes. Thats the issue.

    Seeing as it occurred in mainly Labour areas, points the blame at them internally.

    That is what an INQUIRY is all about. WHO FAILED TO REVEAL/ FOLLOW UP / DEAL WITH THE ISSUE.

    Labour has just insulted the public opinion by blocking one, as many an opinion poll will tell you.
    Another nail in Starmers coffin. I gave him a year. Its looking odds on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    No RA, I won't STFU
    It wasn’t me who used that phrase and the person who did wasn’t specifically referring to you, rather the more professional, political bandwagon riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    It wasn’t me who used that phrase and the person who did wasn’t specifically referring to you, rather the more professional, political bandwagon riders.
    I apologise , i misunderstood that.

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