I don’t know why you use language like drone.
I’m no trade expert but every one I’ve read tell me that no deal will be a disaster. The government and most politicians think no deal will be a disaster. The EU know that no deal will be a lot worse for us than them. This has severely limited our leverage in negotiations. Hence any deal that can be negotiated is and will be significantly worse than the one we have at the moment. No deal or a worse deal will make most people poorer.
More of the population is aware of all this than 2 years ago. Which is why there should be another vote. Better informed people tend to make better decisions.
No, it was David Cameron who called the referendum, despite being a Remainer himself and thinking he would win it easily, but the turnout, not to mention the outcome, showed that the public were ready to be asked the question. Unfortunately, where logic dictated that we then needed a strong-willed 'Leaver' as Prime Minister to carry that message through swiftly and with purpose, we actually got a Vote Remainer masquerading as a (kind of) 'Leaver' who tried to appease both sides primarily to protect her own career as PM. The civil servants and bureaucrats are past masters at exploiting such situations for their own benefit.
No, and by the way it isn't for me to defend them or their actions just because they are ostensibly 'Leavers'. It's quite possible they have been happily riding the gravy train for two years despite knowing this could and should have been resolved at a very early stage by putting a "take it or leave it" offer to the EU. Sadly, there's barely a politician left at the top table these days who I believe has a genuine ideology they would lay down their career for. I see Boris Johnson as the classic modern day opportunist who will say whatever he thinks will serve his own career, and I certainly didn't vote Leave because he joined the bandwagon. Raab I think has more genuine credentials as a Leaver, but it would be naive to think that his resignation the other day didn't have as much if not more to do with his own career ambitions than his principles. Fox doesn't seem to know what to do now, and yet he surely cannot support May's proposals if his own 'Leave' credentials are genuine. Davis at least did resign at a slightly earlier stage and has more of a record for taking stands on principle, but he too has a supersized ego and I don't doubt there's an element of "look at me" in many of the things he does. Backbencher John Redwood for me has been one of the few whose line of argument has been consistent from day one, but that's easy from the back benches. The test of his integrity would have been if he'd been in the Cabinet at the start of the process. Would he have called Theresa May's bullsh*t when he saw it and walked away early, or would he have compromised to enjoy the trappings of power longer? I'd like to think the former, but who knows.
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