Currently, Frank is minded to vote for the Reform Party

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Frank, you score own goals by the hat-trick.

We know where the laughter is coming from now. It is coming from the French, German and Spanish state-owned companies that own our energy and water companies.

The UK is the only state on the planet that has abandoned its citizens in such an incredibly stupid manner. What did Margaret Thatcher get for betraying her country? Presumably she got a lot more than the 30 pieces of silver that Judas got.

[griff]

I think Stefan favours the withdrawal method.

[Psaw]

Kin ell, you obviously dont remember the 60s and 70s, the unions used gangster tactics, blackmail to destroy this country so the Bolsheviks could take over.

And would do again. The dead could not be buried, rubbish was 12 feet high, strikes everywhere.

And you accuse Thatcher of being Judas. Christ sake. I dont know the ins and outs of privatisation, and i dont think you do either. On that basis, does Starmer plan to re nationalise then? Answer....no.

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Frank, whatever the union memberships did in the years long gone by has no effects now, whereas the results of Margaret Thatcher's treason in enabling our energy and water companies to be owned by French, German and Spanish state owned companies are all too real now.

Starmer has plans for an electricity generating company to be state funded and state owned.

Your dream of a Labour government being totally of the far left, eventually resulting in the Conservatives getting back in power, is incredibly silly. When the Tories are all but wiped out in 2 years the Labour government will have policies that are a little to the left of centre, not hostile to business, not hostile to wealth etc. It will be the sort of party that Conservatives who are near to the overall centre of politics can vote for. They will much prefer Labour in comparison to a Conservative Parliamentary party that is run by the ERG (Extremely Right Group) who are controlling the puppet Rishi Sunak.