O/T Midget gems.

[John2]

Why? Genuine question John, why will you love how much this is going to wind people up? On the assumption that it is indeed going to wind people up.

I may have mis-read you (it's difficult to gauge based solely on football forum posts) but you seem to be on some sort of moral crusade, fighting a fight against an "enemy" that I'm not sure truly exists. Do you get "offended" on behalf of other people whom you feel should feel offended?

Apologies if I've mis-read your intentions.

It's actually a very good question. I question my own motives all the time. MillersMad is a fascinating place to me, it's a community to which I enjoy belonging, and into which I find there to be at times interesting and at times entertaining exchanging of views. I do like to keep up with the football stuff, my original purpose for joining the forums over 20 years ago, but I don't feel I have very much to contribute from afar so I tend not to contribute very much on that stuff these days.

In life we all have different traits. I like to question things. To challenge the status quo, to challenge authority, to challenge ideas, to challenge myself.

A forum personality is very different to an in real-life personality. Not that I'm uncivil on here, I genuinely do most of my activities in a well-intended way, even when slightly provocative. But in real life I'll always be try to be friendly and engaging, even (or especially) with people with whom I have very differing views. I don't take myself seriously.

Believe it or not, I get offended myself by surprisingly little. But I get frustrated by perceived injustice or inequality, sure. Not quite the same thing as getting offended on someone else's behalf. Do I think there is an enemy on millers mad I'm trying to fight? Certainly not. I actually have a great fondness for my hometown and fellow supporters of our hometown club, even where we disagree politically, there are always surprising ways you can find common ground with people.

Have I ever in my life stopped to question whether midget gems is offensive? Hell no. Will I likely continue to refer to them as midget gems myself? Probably!

In a sense, I worry for society the prevalence of misinformation and the political forces at work that are causing harm to our democracy. Is that my motive for being on millersmad? No. Do I think my posts on here are going to make the blindest bit of difference in the grand scheme of things? No. However, I do find it fascinating to engage with people, find the things we disagree on, and explore those differences. Sometimes in a more in-depth and engaging way, sometimes provocatively for the fun of it.

Some posters like to accuse me of living in a bubble. Actually, I thrive on participating in as many different worlds and interacting with as many different types of people in the world as I can.

You may think I just come to provoke right wing Brexiteers as part of some liberal crusade, but that's not what it is. I mean, sure, I do it sometimes, but I genuinely find it interesting to learn other perspectives and how people react to different things. I have friend groups where everyone is a lefty, I have close friends who voted for Trump, and I'm just as likely to find myself in a debate where I challenge their views with either.

So yeah, good question I thought I'd try and answer. I'm not entirely sure of my motivations, but I find it interesting to dip in here from time to time. It certainly doesn't consume my life like it does some posters though, and maybe I do need to be more considerate of that.

If you sit back and watch humans behave, it's really quite interesting. You see the things that are important to people, and what consumes their world. I'd be just as likely to provoke a "left wing" friend for getting upset about the wording of midget gems as I would be to provoke a "right winger" for getting upset about them getting renamed. In the grand scheme things it's just such a non-issue that it amuses me and fascinates me how much such things seems to matter to people.

Participating on MillersMad has taught me many things. I genuinely had no idea that grown men could get obsessive about things like the nationality of an 18-year-old girl who is good at tennis, and that these were the sort of issues important in their life to focus their attention on. I say that without judgement, we're all products of our environment, it's just genuinely fascinating to me and I enjoy participating here.

Anyway, brain dump over, read from it what you will.

[John2]

Left a note for you on the Metropole thread, after you have read it please confirm your 3100 donation to RH has been actioned, thanks in advance

I already replied a few days ago.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

It's actually a very good question. I question my own motives all the time. MillersMad is a fascinating place to me, it's a community to which I enjoy belonging, and into which I find there to be at times interesting and at times entertaining exchanging of views. I do like to keep up with the football stuff, my original purpose for joining the forums over 20 years ago, but I don't feel I have very much to contribute from afar so I tend not to contribute very much on that stuff these days.

In life we all have different traits. I like to question things. To challenge the status quo, to challenge authority, to challenge ideas, to challenge myself.

A forum personality is very different to an in real-life personality. Not that I'm uncivil on here, I genuinely do most of my activities in a well-intended way, even when slightly provocative. But in real life I'll always be try to be friendly and engaging, even (or especially) with people with whom I have very differing views. I don't take myself seriously.

Believe it or not, I get offended myself by surprisingly little. But I get frustrated by perceived injustice or inequality, sure. Not quite the same thing as getting offended on someone else's behalf. Do I think there is an enemy on millers mad I'm trying to fight? Certainly not. I actually have a great fondness for my hometown and fellow supporters of our hometown club, even where we disagree politically, there are always surprising ways you can find common ground with people.

Have I ever in my life stopped to question whether midget gems is offensive? Hell no. Will I likely continue to refer to them as midget gems myself? Probably!

In a sense, I worry for society the prevalence of misinformation and the political forces at work that are causing harm to our democracy. Is that my motive for being on millersmad? No. Do I think my posts on here are going to make the blindest bit of difference in the grand scheme of things? No. However, I do find it fascinating to engage with people, find the things we disagree on, and explore those differences. Sometimes in a more in-depth and engaging way, sometimes provocatively for the fun of it.

Some posters like to accuse me of living in a bubble. Actually, I thrive on participating in as many different worlds and interacting with as many different types of people in the world as I can.

You may think I just come to provoke right wing Brexiteers as part of some liberal crusade, but that's not what it is. I mean, sure, I do it sometimes, but I genuinely find it interesting to learn other perspectives and how people react to different things. I have friend groups where everyone is a lefty, I have close friends who voted for Trump, and I'm just as likely to find myself in a debate where I challenge their views with either.

So yeah, good question I thought I'd try and answer. I'm not entirely sure of my motivations, but I find it interesting to dip in here from time to time. It certainly doesn't consume my life like it does some posters though, and maybe I do need to be more considerate of that.

If you sit back and watch humans behave, it's really quite interesting. You see the things that are important to people, and what consumes their world. I'd be just as likely to provoke a "left wing" friend for getting upset about the wording of midget gems as I would be to provoke a "right winger" for getting upset about them getting renamed. In the grand scheme things it's just such a non-issue that it amuses me and fascinates me how much such things seems to matter to people.

Participating on MillersMad has taught me many things. I genuinely had no idea that grown men could get obsessive about things like the nationality of an 18-year-old girl who is good at tennis, and that these were the sort of issues important in their life to focus their attention on. I say that without judgement, we're all products of our environment, it's just genuinely fascinating to me and I enjoy participating here.

Anyway, brain dump over, read from it what you will.

Better than horlicks

🥱

[John2]

Better than horlicks

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lol, I agree

[Brin]

John2, no offence intended but you sound a troubled soul.

[Back of the net]

It's actually a very good question. I question my own motives all the time. MillersMad is a fascinating place to me, it's a community to which I enjoy belonging, and into which I find there to be at times interesting and at times entertaining exchanging of views. I do like to keep up with the football stuff, my original purpose for joining the forums over 20 years ago, but I don't feel I have very much to contribute from afar so I tend not to contribute very much on that stuff these days.

In life we all have different traits. I like to question things. To challenge the status quo, to challenge authority, to challenge ideas, to challenge myself.

A forum personality is very different to an in real-life personality. Not that I'm uncivil on here, I genuinely do most of my activities in a well-intended way, even when slightly provocative. But in real life I'll always be try to be friendly and engaging, even (or especially) with people with whom I have very differing views. I don't take myself seriously.

Believe it or not, I get offended myself by surprisingly little. But I get frustrated by perceived injustice or inequality, sure. Not quite the same thing as getting offended on someone else's behalf. Do I think there is an enemy on millers mad I'm trying to fight? Certainly not. I actually have a great fondness for my hometown and fellow supporters of our hometown club, even where we disagree politically, there are always surprising ways you can find common ground with people.

Have I ever in my life stopped to question whether midget gems is offensive? Hell no. Will I likely continue to refer to them as midget gems myself? Probably!

In a sense, I worry for society the prevalence of misinformation and the political forces at work that are causing harm to our democracy. Is that my motive for being on millersmad? No. Do I think my posts on here are going to make the blindest bit of difference in the grand scheme of things? No. However, I do find it fascinating to engage with people, find the things we disagree on, and explore those differences. Sometimes in a more in-depth and engaging way, sometimes provocatively for the fun of it.

Some posters like to accuse me of living in a bubble. Actually, I thrive on participating in as many different worlds and interacting with as many different types of people in the world as I can.

You may think I just come to provoke right wing Brexiteers as part of some liberal crusade, but that's not what it is. I mean, sure, I do it sometimes, but I genuinely find it interesting to learn other perspectives and how people react to different things. I have friend groups where everyone is a lefty, I have close friends who voted for Trump, and I'm just as likely to find myself in a debate where I challenge their views with either.

So yeah, good question I thought I'd try and answer. I'm not entirely sure of my motivations, but I find it interesting to dip in here from time to time. It certainly doesn't consume my life like it does some posters though, and maybe I do need to be more considerate of that.

If you sit back and watch humans behave, it's really quite interesting. You see the things that are important to people, and what consumes their world. I'd be just as likely to provoke a "left wing" friend for getting upset about the wording of midget gems as I would be to provoke a "right winger" for getting upset about them getting renamed. In the grand scheme things it's just such a non-issue that it amuses me and fascinates me how much such things seems to matter to people.

Participating on MillersMad has taught me many things. I genuinely had no idea that grown men could get obsessive about things like the nationality of an 18-year-old girl who is good at tennis, and that these were the sort of issues important in their life to focus their attention on. I say that without judgement, we're all products of our environment, it's just genuinely fascinating to me and I enjoy participating here.

Anyway, brain dump over, read from it what you will.

I’m not upset by renaming them I just think there is a growing resentment of the cancel culture that is getting worse daily. Company’s and people are imo pandering to the masses when they don’t need to.
The world is getting to be a place where a small percentage is forcing change on the majority for there own particular crusade.

The midget gem thing is really tiny pardon the pun but systematic of the world we now live in.
I think most people will see it as yet again virtue signalling. Just my opinion.

[John2]

Don't worry, I can assure you none has been taken Brin.

[John2]

I’m not upset by renaming them I just think there is a growing resentment of the cancel culture that is getting worse daily. Company’s and people are imo pandering to the masses when they don’t need to.
The world is getting to be a place where a small percentage is forcing change on the majority for there own particular crusade.

The midget gem thing is really tiny pardon the pun but systematic of the world we now live in.
I think most people will see it as yet again virtue signalling. Just my opinion.

The world is changing, there's no stopping it. Some aspects of cancel culture worry me. Midget gems is not one of them.

I'd suggest picking your battles, as otherwise its the exact same thing the other direction - "left wing" people will think that the "right wing" is kicking up a fuss regardless, and so when valid arguments are made they'll get lost.

Companies are pandering to the masses because its called capitalism. They always have and they always will, getting upset about that is like getting upset at a baby for wanting milk, pointless. Thats the system we have.

[KerrAvon]

I’m not upset by renaming them I just think there is a growing resentment of the cancel culture that is getting worse daily. Company’s and people are imo pandering to the masses when they don’t need to.
The world is getting to be a place where a small percentage is forcing change on the majority for there own particular crusade.

The midget gem thing is really tiny pardon the pun but systematic of the world we now live in.
I think most people will see it as yet again virtue signalling. Just my opinion.

Surely in this instance they are pandering to a tiny element of society as opposed to the masses?

[fc_miller]

are they renaming Percy Pigs too as not to offend our neighbours...

...pigs that is, not sure if Percy minds.