OT General Election apathy.

[ragingpup]

The amount of CO² in the entire atmosphere is 0.041% how much of that do humans create?.

What % of CO² would see life on earth fail?

More CO² would see better yields for agriculture.

Discussion of that question here:

https://www.sciencealert.com/co2-is-...nce-here-s-why

[frogmiller]

Discussion of that question here:

https://www.sciencealert.com/co2-is-...nce-here-s-why

You win!

[KerrAvon]

The amount of CO² in the entire atmosphere is 0.041% how much of that do humans create?.

What % of CO² would see life on earth fail?

More CO² would see better yields for agriculture.

Yes, plants need CO2 to grow and increasing levels will increase plant growth (commercial greenhouses often have artificially elevated levels of CO2 in them).

Plants also need water to grow and droughts will stop them (there’s a thread on here about the price of olive oil, which has shot through the roof because of drought and excessive heat in the Mediterranean last year). They also need oxygen to grow and there are worries in the UK about the extent to which the winter cereal crops in the UK have been damaged by effectively being drowned in waterlogged fields during the winter and early spring of this year.

It's important not to confuse weather with climate, but there is a clear trend of rising global temperatures, which will inevitably affect ecosystems and agriculture.

Climate change will also drive human migration, which is a concern of the OP.

And of course, there is another reason to switch to renewables, which is that oil, coal and gas are finite (unless you believe some of the wackier theories that propagate on the internet). That means the price is only going to go one way.

[MillerBill]

Yes, plants need CO2 to grow and increasing levels will increase plant growth (commercial greenhouses often have artificially elevated levels of CO2 in them).

Plants also need water to grow and droughts will stop them (there’s a thread on here about the price of olive oil, which has shot through the roof because of drought and excessive heat in the Mediterranean last year). They also need oxygen to grow and there are worries in the UK about the extent to which the winter cereal crops in the UK have been damaged by effectively being drowned in waterlogged fields during the winter and early spring of this year.

It's important not to confuse weather with climate, but there is a clear trend of rising global temperatures, which will inevitably affect ecosystems and agriculture.

Climate change will also drive human migration, which is a concern of the OP.

And of course, there is another reason to switch to renewables, which is that oil, coal and gas are finite (unless you believe some of the wackier theories that propagate on the internet). That means the price is only going to go one way.

Kerr,in the original post.I didn't say we abandon going green altogether but we must NOT do it recklessly, costing the people so much grief.Why are we importing gas,oil and coal ,which we have so much in abundance here?The reason given is we have to because Windpower and solar energy does not provide us with our demands in this country.Well start using what we have here then !!!!!!!!!!

[frogmiller]

Kerr,in the original post.I didn't say we abandon going green altogether but we must NOT do it recklessly, costing the people so much grief.Why are we importing gas,oil and coal ,which we have so much in abundance here?The reason given is we have to because Windpower and solar energy does not provide us with our demands in this country.Well start using what we have here then !!!!!!!!!!

100%

The only problem is that the British government sells the license to these things to the world market

[harpo88]

The new oil licences would contribute less than 1% of things like fuel used in transport by 2030, while in the meantime the rise in EV sales will have reduced the fuel demand by more than 1% anyway.

Meanwhile those looking where to site new premises for green industrial plants are put off by every Government rowback and look at more positive investment conditions elsewhere in the world.

[MillerBill]

The new oil licences would contribute less than 1% of things like fuel used in transport by 2030, while in the meantime the rise in EV sales will have reduced the fuel demand by more than 1% anyway.

Meanwhile those looking where to site new premises for green industrial plants are put off by every Government rowback and look at more positive investment conditions elsewhere in the world.

Harpo,nobody can afford these electric cars.Look at the insurance you have to pay as well and the astronomical price to renew the battery

[howdydoo]

Simply p!ssing in the wind.

China, Russia, India, USA.

Spend the billions on Nuclear.

There's a lot scepticism about EV cars but in the not too distant future, they will have 500 miles + ranges. Be interesting what impact disposing millions of current batteries will have. Maybe they can be reused to back up solar panels or similar. My others halfs EV car has a 3 point plug connection so it should be easy enough.

[harpo88]

Harpo,nobody can afford these electric cars.Look at the insurance you have to pay as well and the astronomical price to renew the battery

That’s the crux for a lot of the transition MB, mostly higher static costs in general for now but lower running cost. Same in generation, capital cost high vs running cost low. Seems to stack up for 20% of new car purchases though, and the various innovations are still developing. (NB not all will need to replace battery and while insurance costs are higher you claw some back on lower servicing costs)

[frogmiller]

You can always rent a car! What is the reason for owning one?
You can rent everything. Don’t forget that most on here will remember putting a ten bob piece in the back of a tv.
Some rent houses.

You can own nothing and be happy just by renting 🥳 !